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Jun 30 2009 07:42am
Quote (mortiz @ Tue, Jun 30 2009, 08:37am)
it depends on the matchups but i guess with your build i'd rather go for a high damage 2sock [feral] fools (or fury) instead of a 5ls fools.


also i still like the idea of a hybrid with high physical damage that's wearing HL.
maybe anyone wants to give it a try.


i've actually tried that and its not bad honestly. however when i do that:

1) I'll lose not only lose +1 skill that goes directly into venom and traps, but the an extra point in fade and claw block too (which in the end is a lost of 2 points that could have gone into synergies)
2) Hybrids tend to have poor res and ar, so to counter the bad res i use shide which gives 20 res all (that allows me to free up 20 res from charms) allowing me to use 32020s instead of 20/5s for more AR and Max Damage
3) The life from an ammy like storm hide is godly because combine with BO it gives more life.
4) Im only at 148 str (thats with a str fcr ring) and i'd need to put a shitload into str to use dancers (or else i cant use feral/runic claws).
5) Not only that but if you use highlords you wont have enough str to use spirit shield on swap for bo for even more life or a 4xdol shield for rep if you need it for certain l8z duels. and while that 200+ life may not seem alot, sometimes its all you need to tank that 1 extra hit before you die. And the longer you can survive, the more damage you and dish out in the end.

so basically if you can live for 5x hits of 4k damage (4x5=20k), but if you die in like 4 hits (4.5kx4=18k). in the long run, living more and doing a little less damage at higher AR and stuff is better. (think of it as vita zon vs glass zon). i think gaining all of that in the end > the small boost of 36% deadly strike from highlords

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jun 30 2009 07:56am
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Jun 30 2009 07:54am
i know the points but i never really compared it. never really calculated how much the damage increase of a HL with good eth claws would look like compared to crafted amulets.

i mean ... ghosts use very similar equipment, just different mods on claws and max fade which means a difference in DR setups (could be a problem since you have to use a circlet with HL) ... but apart from that it's pretty similar.
shide is pretty kicky so on east it's probably better than HL. same goes for really nice mage crafts i guess
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Jun 30 2009 07:57am
Quote (mortiz @ Tue, Jun 30 2009, 08:54am)
i know the points but i never really compared it. never really calculated how much the damage increase of a HL with good eth claws would look like compared to crafted amulets.

i mean ... ghosts use very similar equipment, just different mods on claws and max fade which means a difference in DR setups (could be a problem since you have to use a circlet with HL) ... but apart from that it's pretty similar.
shide is pretty kicky so on east it's probably better than HL. same goes for really nice mage crafts i guess


yes i agree entirely. for those who do not have access to shide, highlords is the best 2nd choice ammy. i should have listed an option for alternative realms/poor man's option but eh w/e

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Jun 30 2009 08:32am
Nice Very GG Sin , I Wish I Have That :)
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I made my 1st hybrid sin (LOS-QasiKahn) on oct 23rd 2003, the day the 1.10 patch was released. In that time I have built numerous with improvements each time. I thought I had the perfect hybrid because I was easing most every sin i dueled until I met MastaBui. In a ft5 he beat Qasimoto hands down and showed this old dawg a few new tricks. Since then I have started a new hybrid sin along these lines and can aleady see an improvement at lvl 92. He has the best sin build I know of and is by far the best sin dueler I have yet to find. His sins rock, calling them gg is an understatement
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Jun 30 2009 09:22am
Quote (WitchDoctor @ Tue, Jun 30 2009, 10:11am)
I made my 1st hybrid sin (LOS-QasiKahn) on oct 23rd 2003, the day the 1.10 patch was released. In that time I have built numerous with improvements each time. I thought I had the perfect hybrid because I was easing most every sin i dueled until I met MastaBui. In a ft5 he beat Qasimoto hands down and showed this old dawg a few new tricks. Since then I have started a new hybrid sin along these lines and can aleady see an improvement at lvl 92.  He has the best sin build I know of and is by far the best sin dueler I have yet to find. His sins rock, calling them gg is an understatement


wow that was a crazy compliment man

thanks lol much appreciated and i wish you the best of luck on your new sin :)
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Jun 30 2009 10:06am
nice guide

a bit expensive
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Jun 30 2009 10:26am
Quote (dys @ Tue, Jun 30 2009, 11:06am)
nice guide

a bit expensive


yea i did spend a bit on her and there are cheaper options where you can replace some items to fit your budget and still have a pretty good sin, but you know what? if your gonna do it u gotta go all out. otherwise, you have a bunch of half ass chars who arent really good at anything.

Bui's FG Value as of June 30 2009

Wearing:
2sin/20fcr/30frw/48life/16/33lite/16res = 4,000
2sin/20fcr/vis/38life/9dex/16res = 11,000
Permed Gchaos = 10,000
Permed Gfury = 10,000
Permed 3df/3md/3ls Suwayyah = 300
Permed Shide = 1,500
15/15/775 nigma = 200
Perf 2/25/100ed Shadow Dancers = 700
6/6/3 cta = 100
Eth Spirit = 100
74 trangs = 20
P arach = 40
250/20dex raven = 200
10fcr/77ar/16str/15dex/10res all = 1000

Inventory:
9x legit 45 shadow lifer = 3,600
20/20/10 anni = 2000
20/20 sin torch = 250
6x Legit 20/5s = 1,620
4x permed 32020s = 1000

Stash:
Permed 0.8 Valk = 11,000
Permed Soul Shanks = 2,500
Fools claw = 11,000
2x 6/6/2 buff claws 2x 5-5 facets = 2,000
3shadow/20fcr/2soc 2x5-5 facets Buff helm = 150
P shako 20/15 = 40
tgod/Highlords/snowclash/dwarf = 20
20/15mf wisp = 100
250/20dex raven = 200
15/15/70res eth treks = 500
40/15/13 dungos = 150
4x 20life/11 cold res sc = 600
Eth Jade Talon = 50
Permed bone master = 300
5% bk ring = 15
3venom/3ls/1df feral chaos = 300

Merc Wearing:
P bramble = 150
Diadem perf kiras 9str/15res Jewel = 265
Lidless 5-5 facet = 30

Total FG Value: 77,000 FG

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jun 30 2009 10:28am
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Jun 30 2009 11:19am
godly guide again :D after reading ur last guide i was about to make a godly hybrid but since im on eu-realm i simply cant get most kick-ass items ur using on ur assa (like shide, Gclaws etc) could you pls add an item setup for europe ?:)

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Jun 30 2009 11:21am
Quote (fafik @ Tue, Jun 30 2009, 12:19pm)
godly guide again :D after reading ur last guide i was about to make a godly hybrid but since im on eu-realm i simply cant get most kick-ass items ur using on ur assa (like shide, Gclaws etc) could you pls add an item setup for europe ?:)


sure. replace shide with highlords and replace gclaw with regular claw (suwayyah chaos/runic fools with 3+venom + ls + xxx mod)

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