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Anyone have a list of ep-pvp rules? ep-pvp.net doesnt seem to be working.

Seems to me like just a bunch of bad dueling rules for players who cant learn to adapt after 09.
I watched one video of that sorc vs necro and its like wtf is this crap with dueling a nonteleporting necro.
And not allowing df but its ok to stack 3xLo + wisp vs light chars? some duelers obviously have their sense of game balance skewed.

pvp got a lot more interesting imo with enigma/cta. Characters are more powerful in general, more classes are pvp viable, action is faster, everything is so much more a threat with telestomping and high damage.
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Seems to me like just a bunch of bad dueling rules for players who cant learn to adapt after 09.

agree a bit, but also must say that 09 was way more fun pvp.

Allowing all items would simple make impossible to use traps or sorceress. since any light fire or lighting damage can do HEAL
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meh I guess its subjective. I like dueling with enigma and other 1.10+ additions, chain namelocks are fun.

Allowing all items of course means anything elemental can be oversorbed, which is why leagues exist and there is a difference between gm and bm dueling.
I dont disagree with having rules for gm duels, I just disagree with the gm rules from your dueling league.
(http://www.europvp.com/rules/rules.htm)

Rules like:
"- Whirlwind Lock is not allowed. Mistakes happen but if you start having too much complains against you from different players you will be banned. If you make a ww lock by mistake, try to warn your opponent as fast as possible and say sorry."
who ww locks? thats like an autoloss, if a barb/wwsin wwlocks someone a good player will be able to tell within a second, then promptly take the wwlocked character for a tour around the moor while killing them with some projectile. If the player messes up and dies to misjudging desync caused by the wwlock, thats their fault. I think that the fact that your league declares wwlock as bm tells that the players in the league are not able to cope with desync and use a wwlock against the player doing it.

"- Assassin is not allowed to use "Mind Blast" vs Elemental Druid"
This is just silly. How is a trapper supposed to pk a druid without mindblast? while its true the average trapper will destroy the average druid, a top notch druid with 85 light res should be able to defeat a top notch trapper. 163/99 druids can easily tele on trappers nado and tele off before traps attack, if the trapper can not mindblast he can not kill the druid. A good druid player can run out of traps while being mindblasted. wsg gives the advantage to well played druids with 85 res because they can still escape even if they mess up and get locked down.

"- Paladins are not allowed to use "Passive Charge" unless specified elsewhere. "
seems to me like some players cant learn to see through desync.

"- Paladin is not allowed to use the skill "Smite" against Barbarians"
a good barb player can outwhirl a smiter. It takes a "barbkiller" smiter with 60k+ def/lifetap/clegs/hf flashing to have an advantage, even then a barb player has counters they can use. I dont see why smite would be deemed bm in pally vs barb unless the barbs are complete dumbasses and whirling right through the smiter.

"Hybrid Assassin:
3) Maximum of 64% faster cast rate."
eww @ 42fcr bp pvp assassin. who does that?


And no use of tele from enigma, no grief/fort/faith.. no torch..
These items are not unbalanced although they may seem so at first glance if you are playing on bnet and not used to high level dueling.

These are league rules I choose to play by:
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GM RULES


THE RULES

THE NO'S SECTION:

- No use of L tap in Melee vs. Melee duel
- NO HACKS THAT IMPROVE PVP ABILTIES ARE ALLOWED (You will be banned)
- No more than 40 Life Replenish is allowed on any character.
- Items which contain spell charges are allowed, but the use of the charges is not.
- All items which grant a chance to cast Amplify Damage are banned.
- No mercenaries are allowed.
- No Guardian Angel Armors.
- No two pieces of Sorb or Max Resistance of the same Element.
- No More then 75% Poison Reduction is allowed
- No Naked killing
- No Hotspurs Unless Said Otherwise Under Characters
- No more then 85% Resistance to an Element
- No Money Takers.
- No 100+ resist Shields.

THE YES'S SECTION.

- Items that Grant Aura?s (Except Hf in melee vs Melee)
- Only one item that grants an elemental absorb type is allowed.
- Only one item that Grants Max %+ Resistance or skill allowed.
- A maximum of 451 poison damage is allowed from charms for all melee characters, and none are allowed for Amazons.
- No Cap on R/w.
- No Cap on IAS.
-There is no restrictions on in-game techniques(IBS, IGA, farcast, hammer-fields, etc)*

MISC SECTION:

- Upon starting duels agree to WSG as allowed or not (by captains)
- One Person says "Go" from each team to begin dueling.
- Leaving the Dueling Arena during a duel is considered a loss NO EXCEPTIONS.
- No Disappearing off your Opponents Map for more then 10 Seconds = Auto Loss.
- No overly defensive play (100% teleport off screen as soon as you're on their mini map)
- No avoiding contact with an opponent intentionally with no plans of attacking
- No stacking mana potions
- No casting of traps/missiles before both players say go
- No extended use of houses

SORC-SPECIFIC RULES:

- No Max Resist/Absorb allowed if you're using Energy shield.
- No Pre Buffing ES
- No more then 13 15/70s
- May Use Doom

NECRO-SPECIFIC RULES:

- Recast of Bone Armor Is Allowed
- Bone Prison is allowed vs. anything that can Teleport in 1v1
- All Curses allowed Except Iron Maiden Life Tap
- NO Corpse skills are allowed
- Fire Golem+ Dwarf Star is allowed(not vs fire trappers)
- Hot Spurs are allowed
- No Overly Mass Defensive IBS Spamming

DRUID-SPECIFIC RULES:

- No Thunder Gods
- No Snow Clash
- Wisp Protector and Dwarf Are allowed
- Recasting Cyclone, Wolfs, Sage, Ravens, and Hurricane Are allowed
- Wind druids may not use tgods or hotspurs

ASN-SPECIFIC RULES:

- Dual Claw Assassins can wear 1 Raven or 1 dwarf
- Hotspurs Allowed on Non-Dual Claw Assassins
- No Left Click Modding (you will be Banned)
- No Prebuffing Skills
-Dual ClawAssassins may not use tgods or hotspurs.

BARB-SPECIFIC RULES:

- No Prebuffing
- 2 Raven Frost Allowed (if your not stacking resistance)
- 1 Raven allowed if stacking

AMAZON SPECIFIC RULES:

- No Battle Orders allowed in 1vs1(ZVZ)
- Hotspurs allowed (bowzons only)
- Slow Missile allowed
- Only 1 Raven Frost Allowed

PALADIN SPECIFIC RULES:

- Using a Resistance Aura Counts as a Sorb Item or having more then 2 points in it.
- Cleansing Meditation and Prayer are allowed


The realm I play on allows any type of capped rare item with perf affix rolls, 400 eth glitch griefs, 450ed weapons, use of wsg and purposefully desyncing, slow%, kb, use of any fhr/fcr bps that the character can reach with their gear, uses of pretty much any tactic when it comes to gameplay.
The game is more balanced than you think. Ive seen characters of every class compete and do well.

The one piece sorb or 85res/no sorb rule, along with no healing/juving, eliminates most problems and class imbalances found in bm "anything goes" dueling.

The rules given by your league.. eh.. imo they just try to hold on to what 09 was, which isnt what 1.10+ dueling is about, at least imho. If you want no tele duels, level 30 dueling is a lot more suited towards that style of play, and a lot more balanced. When I read the euro-pvp rules I feel like its written by players who were unable to find ways to counter the new tactics and character setups, so instead they made these rules trying to bring dueling back to 09, but with the 1.11 patch bastardization. kinda lame. imho.


but whatever floats your boat. If you like dueling in this league continue to do so and have fun, thats what d2 is about - choosing how you want to play it. I just felt like I had to rant on why I disagree with your league's rules.
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