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Apr 27 2009 06:49am
Quote (tudey @ Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 14:36)
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Quote (halo273 @ Sun, Apr 26 2009, 03:41pm)
I personally think something like sorb is to be used at the users discretion (what ppl think is acceptable or not). For example on barb if you don’t have stack res 2 ravens is gm in my eyes at the end of the day its alot worse to use stack than sorb vs blizz. Also why should it be acceptable to die in 1-2 hits? It’s almost like an foher complaining about sorb or stack. Simple answer is you would have a very small chance vs a char like this to win.

This is the same argument i bring to fohers and blizz that complain, I ask them "what you expect me to do be easy duel and die in 1-2 hits?" If they actually have some kind of brain they don't answer because they can understand the point im making. I don't so much believe in the philosophy of "what you got use." As this would mean elemental chars would not be viable heck if this was the case you would see ppl with 95% res 2X dwarf stars + rising sun amu vs fire sorc which near negates all dmg. Bottom line is you won’t please everyone so use your own judgement and do what you feel is best for your nature.


so far the only smart person in this dicussion of why 2x dual ravens is fine when u dont have sufficent reg stack cold res to negate their cold mastery. Most barbs arent like paladins who can easily have over 350-400 cold res on normal setup (i have yet to see a barb with that much res on his "normal" setup, if he went to prepare by swapin ohm'd kira, puttin a silence zerk on off hand,wearing snowclash, drinkin thaw pots, etc...then thats different)
2x dual ravens with not enough res to out do cold mastery = will let u not die 1-2 hit, and u die more like 3-4 hits which is fair game.
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Apr 27 2009 08:40am
Quote (Advariel @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 02:14am)
Yes, I was quite mad when it happened. Some idiot joined the game and immediately started teleing after me with no warning, WWing and such. He was wearing 2 Ravens and stood behind that fact, saying I had shitty damage etc. My damage is maxed. I hate people like this.



Yeah i've noticed that. Even the ones that were GM before the asshat joins will convert and turn against you. Hell, my own allies will steal my gold when that happens. (Of course, then i kill them and nk them over and over again)



Yeah, it takes well over 3 blizzes for me to kill them as well, and that's with pure damage gear and Vita build.


Wow stfu you fucking moron
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Apr 27 2009 08:43am
Quote (Aube @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 01:19pm)
Yet you're crying because it takes well over 3 blizz to kill some1

LOL


lol. probably expects everything to die in one hit.
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Apr 27 2009 08:55am
This is why I play LLD. No retarded builds like pure foh'ers, no such thing as absorb, limited DR, everyone is friendly, and duelers are more skilled. Unfortunately, hammerdins are still vastly overpowered heh. 1700 unresistable damage at level 30 with charge desynch is a pain.
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Apr 27 2009 08:58am
Quote (InvestorGuy @ Mon, 27 Apr 2009, 16:55)
This is why I play LLD. No retarded builds like pure foh'ers, no such thing as absorb, limited DR, everyone is friendly, and duelers are more skilled. Unfortunately, hammerdins are still vastly overpowered heh. 1700 unresistable damage at level 30 with charge desynch is a pain.


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Apr 27 2009 09:05am
tbh this crying topic needs to stop.. If you feel your being over absed join a new game or brb with a no abs or resistable char. Because If i was vs you or any blizz or foh char i refuse to die in 1-2 hits vs anyone else its a pointless duel. Another question to you, what if I was vs a mega defensive playing blizz sorc that always stayed 3+ screens away, is acceptable that i die to this in 1-2 hits?
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Apr 27 2009 09:27am
Quote (gerdi_trade @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 12:32pm)
when you have ~12k blizz dmg and -260% cold rs and he does not use stacked res, i cannot see the problem.

let's say you have 12 k blizz dmg -> 2k pvp dmg -> he does not have stacked res juust 75% cr -> he has -150% cold res (it's capped there)

then each blizz -> 2000*2,5 = 5000 each hit then he uses 40% abs -> 1000 dmg each hit -> if blizz hits ~2 times when ever you hit him -> he dies in ~3 blizzs.

If you had to use 15+ blizz i can see there is a problem (even tho 15 is still few blizz hits)

there might be mistakes in this post, but think you got the point.


Heh, I didn't know it was capped at -150%. That's lame. Also, 15 blizz hits is a LOT, especially when you consider blizz doesn't always hit, and players can often run through one without any repercussion.

Quote (FnK @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 02:40pm)
Wow stfu you fucking moron


Nice explanation for your post there buddy. If you're going to just post meaningless insults then kindly get the fuck off my thread. Also you just made yourself look like a fucking moron.

Quote (halo273 @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 03:05pm)
tbh this crying topic needs to stop.. If you feel your being over absed join a new game or brb with a no abs or resistable char. Because If i was vs you or any blizz or foh char i refuse to die in 1-2 hits vs anyone else its a pointless duel. Another question to you, what if I was vs a mega defensive playing blizz sorc that always stayed 3+ screens away, is acceptable that i die to this in 1-2 hits?


As a barb, there are many ways you could counter this. The sorc cannot hit you from 3 screens away unless they have you namelocked, and they shouldn't be able to get that close anyway (close enough to namelock) without getting teleraped. More often than not the sorc will die in 1-2 WW's, how is this any more acceptable than dying in 1-2 blizzes? Only difference is, physical damage cannot be negated like cold can.

This post was edited by Advariel on Apr 27 2009 09:31am
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Quote (Advariel @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 03:27pm)
Nice explanation for your post there buddy. If you're going to just post meaningless insults then kindly get the fuck off my thread. Also you just made yourself look like a fucking moron.


Quote (Advariel @ Mon, Apr 27 2009, 02:14am)
Yeah, it takes well over 3 blizzes for me to kill them as well, and that's with pure damage gear and Vita build.



hmm Oo
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