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Dec 15 2004 10:34am
No sorc can tank a good barb period (unless you go 90+ eshield, with 15/70:s and mana potting, but then the barb will just use owgear and rape you anyway).

Dont know if you mean ed/ias or ed/max in arreats, but both are worthless. WW is based on weaponspeed only, no other ias counts. ed/max jewels are bugged in helmets, meaning that the ed will only be applied to the min dmg, not the max, i.e. even a plain ed jewel is way better. Go ed/str or ed/dex if you are a blockbarb.

Vs casters you should use botd+beast and arach+2x fcr rings, wizard spike simply sucks. The only exception is vs eshield coldsorcs, where 2x um:ed wizzies work wonders. You wont ever land a telezerk on any decent caster btw, its too slow.

I know useast lacks good bvc-barbs. The really good barbs never loses to sorcs though...
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QUOTE (kanniball-gws @ Dec 15 2004, 05:20 PM)
1) Vs Light soso:    2*Wisps, thundergods, arre Lo, storm Lo, (lightsabre).

2) every nice duped baba amu >> highlords.

1) i think absorb is capped at 40%

2) highlords has got ~35% Deadly Strike, which makes around 1/3 more overall damage. Only this stat makes it the best amu by far, nevermind the other good stats. only reason to take it off can be angelic to improve your hitrate, because if you dont hit, the critical strike doesn't help much so you are better off exchanging it against high def chars only.

About the rest you are right, such a barb for bvb would seriously suck. a bvb build has to be completely different, more strenght and no enigma for a start

This post was edited by Kortez on Dec 15 2004 11:29am
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Dec 15 2004 05:48pm
decent guide.

nice lay out atleast.
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Dec 16 2004 01:51am
shael'd wiz spike + botd is the best vs caster hands down, you tele at 10fpa, its easy to catch them, and your ww is 2 fpa with shael wiz. this guide is not very good, he didnt even know holy freeze doesnt affect fcr...
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QUOTE (wuaffiliate)
shael'd wiz spike + botd is the best vs caster hands down, you tele at 10fpa, its easy to catch them, and your ww is 2 fpa with shael wiz. this guide is not very good, he didnt even know holy freeze doesnt affect fcr...


You on the other hand obviously don't know that much either:

1) 4 fps ww is max.
2) Shael in wiz is useless, you wont reach 4 fps anyway. Um for open wounds is MUCH better.
3) Botd+wiz is WORTHLESS. Botd+Beast is best vs casters (hands down evil.gif ). You then use arach+2x fcr rings for 10 fps tele. I'd like to see you take down anything but the standard pubbie tal rasha sorc using wizardspike...
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ill take any sorc you want to throw at my barb with wiz+botd, that allows me to also wear any absorb i need to. arach + 2 caster rings is stupid, that means you cant use tgods/dwarfs/ravens/snowclash. wiz is huge stacked res as well as 10frame cast rate that allows for other absorb to be worn easily.

you are also incorrect about the wiz+botd being 4 frames you can check the ias calculator yourself, wiz+20ias on weapon + botdzerker = 2fpa ww, research before you act a fool please.

wiz is superior to beast easily, i can show you if you wish just pm me a time and place boy.
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Lol?

1) You are an utter retard if you trust the calculators blindly, especially for dualwielding.
There is NO attack in d2 that attacks at 2 fpa. 4 fpa is the fastest (i.e. ww and fireclaws).

One-hand and all sword bps:
-10 = 6 frames/attack
-35 = 4 frames/attack

Two-hand bps:
-10 = 8 frames/attack
-30 = 6 frames/attack
-60 = 4 frames/attack

This has all been tested, proved and accepted as common knowledge. No calcs needed, just check on your weapon. Not my fault that you aren't enlighted enough to know this.
This also means that your shaeled wizspike will attack at 6 fpa, and your botd at 4.
2 fpa ww lmfao...

2) Yeah, ofc, absorb! GOOD POINT, didn't think of that. Then you can use your crappy wiz and take your good time, hooray!!! What's the point of dueling at all when you cant die? Good barbs doesn't NEED absorb to beat sorcs. Again, not my fault that you do. Just clearifying that any decent sorc will outtank you if you use botd+wiz. If you need to stack resists that badly, you use botd+silence ba, nothing else. Only exception is vs eshield coldsorcs, where 2x UM:ED wizzies work wonders and as a bonus you get 8 fps cast.

3) Wiz is inferior to beast in every way, there is NO reason whatsoever to use it. It does NO damage, has sucky ar and attackspeed. The people who use wiz are either poor or dumb. What are you?
Comparision:
Botd+Beast: 6k/3.5k
Botd+Wiz: 4.3k/1k
Do I have to say more? Only way you could kill anything with botd+wiz is if you absorb all their damage. A 3-year old kid can do that.

And no, "boy", I'm not on useast.

No wonder your realm lack good barbs if everyone thinks like you. Arach + 2 fcr rings beats every other option by far, if you dont realize that I pity you.

Just thought of it again: 2 fpa ww, lol...

This post was edited by morotsjos on Dec 16 2004 04:10am
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QUOTE (morotsjos @ Dec 16 2004, 10:00 AM)
[b]No wonder your realm lack good barbs if everyone thinks like you.[B] Arach + 2 fcr rings beats every other option by far, if you dont realize that I pity you.

2 fpa ww, lol...

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research before you act a fool please.

You words Wuaffiliate, exactly.

This post was edited by kanniball-gws on Dec 16 2004 04:14am
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Dec 16 2004 04:27am
my barb is made to duel elementals, sorb and stacked res is what hes used for. wiz is superior.

This post was edited by wuaffiliate on Dec 16 2004 04:38am
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Dec 16 2004 04:49am
That's a bit lame don't u think? I mean, stacked res + sorb; It's like dueling something that not even can hit u, it's the same as dueling a fallen -.-
(except a fallen doesn't cry when it dies, or doesn't run/tele)
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