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Jul 9 2006 01:43pm
just got started on a Garydin myself, great guide, and I'd also like to say for everyone's benefit that probably 95% of the people or so with negative feedback have never played on HC, I'm sure you already know this though
did you see the thread of the guy who copied and pasted your equipment and then at the end wrote "it doesn't need to be self found like it says next to the items"? Interested in seeing the next "you have to be retarded or drunk to die" build, very nice
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Prefer Act3 merc w Lawbringer, CoH, Stormshield & good helm (using Ber-ed & Cham-ed CoA atm - but helm is just experiment)
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Quote (jancx @ Sun, 9 Jul 2006, 20:44)
Prefer Act3 merc w Lawbringer, CoH, Stormshield & good helm (using Ber-ed & Cham-ed CoA atm - but helm is just experiment)


when i first set out on this project, i was using an a3 merc. but then i figured that the freeze is not all that important, and the decrep that Ulf puts on is worth the changeover.

also how do you get the mercs str up enough to wear a coa ? i guess id have to test this
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Jul 14 2006 02:42am
I just wanted to say thats a nice guide
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thanks


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now a part of the strategy and guides paladin sticky biggrin.gif
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hum i like the idea
im just a scnl player and
was searching 4 some cs hammer build to lvl one for my m8 so he can do some mf or so,
but now im thinking about joining hcl next season with this buil smile.gif
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Aug 7 2006 07:27pm
Ok, well, I very much like this guide, however, I want to ask a few things, firstly, why stormshield?

You have said because of the DR, however, compared to HoZ, you not only lose the res, but the str + dex (or w/e the 2nd mod is) is also a big loss. Now, yes, the DR difference is great, however would it not be better, to do;

Shield ~> HoZ (Ber'd For DR) Gives Res + Str +++
Helm ~> CoA (Can Be Same Res As Ral'd Shako Cept ALL Res) Double Ber'D for the missing DR

Now, yes, you would need more STR for the CoA, however with the boost from HoZ, it should help smile.gif

You do lose a few DR, however you gain a great deal of Res and Skills and obviously, def with Holy Shield and what not.



Secondly, the belt. Personally, I don't like using Arach on HcL, I feel much safer with TGoDs. From this, you gain Str and what not, however lose some FCR.

So, instead, how about;

Rings ~> Raven (Or Dwarf) + 10 Fcr / Str / Mana / Whatever You Want Ring
Belt ~> TGoDs
Ammy ~> +2 / 5 FCR / Str / Res / Whatever You Want Ammy

This gives breakpoint, more Str (incase you need it) and it feels a bit safer IMO?



Lastly, Merc. Now, I like the idea of having broad sword and what not, however, what I don't get, is why you use Tals helm?. I know it gives life and what not, but what about Gaze? Its 2 less life leech, with extra DR. And of course, you can socket it with a P Ruby, or if you really need the leech, amn rune (I think it gives leach in the helm?)


Anyway, thats my oppinions, perhaps you can tell me why / why not my plan would not work? wink.gif
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Ok, well, I very much like this guide, however, I want to ask a few things, firstly, why stormshield?

You have said because of the DR, however, compared to HoZ, you not only lose the res, but the str + dex (or w/e the 2nd mod is) is also a big loss. Now, yes, the DR difference is great, however would it not be better, to do;

Shield ~> HoZ (Ber'd For DR) Gives Res + Str +++
Helm ~> CoA (Can Be Same Res As Ral'd Shako Cept ALL Res) Double Ber'D for the missing DR

Now, yes, you would need more STR for the CoA, however with the boost from HoZ, it should help smile.gif

You do lose a few DR, however you gain a great deal of Res and Skills and obviously, def with Holy Shield and what not.



Secondly, the belt. Personally, I don't like using Arach on HcL, I feel much safer with TGoDs. From this, you gain Str and what not, however lose some FCR.

So, instead, how about;

Rings ~> Raven (Or Dwarf) + 10 Fcr / Str / Mana / Whatever You Want Ring
Belt ~> TGoDs
Ammy ~> +2 / 5 FCR / Str / Res / Whatever You Want Ammy

This gives breakpoint, more Str (incase you need it) and it feels a bit safer IMO?



Lastly, Merc. Now, I like the idea of having broad sword and what not, however, what I don't get, is why you use Tals helm?. I know it gives life and what not, but what about Gaze? Its 2 less life leech, with extra DR. And of course, you can socket it with a P Ruby, or if you really need the leech, amn rune (I think it gives leach in the helm?)


Anyway, thats my oppinions, perhaps you can tell me why / why not my plan would not work? wink.gif


you dont lose str using hoz over ss, youll have base str either way

yes you lose 20 vitality

i dont like hoz and coa because the life you gain from hoz you lose from shako

in my opinion coa is an overrated overused softcore helm

youll also lose 1 skill from your BO using coa

assuming your coa is perfect, you will have slightly more res, less dr, less life, less mana (already scrimpin here) and have i believe 1k more hammer dmg (2k more maybe but i doubt it)

youll also need near perfect stat anni and torch and be very high lvl to use coa with base str


as for the whole tgods thing, totally unnecessary, the build is meant for chaosing - no lightning threats in cs

and the merc, i went for as much leech as possible, if you see a difference using gaze then by all means
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ehh max block is no good , id go for pure vitaa
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