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Quote (Ongeboren @ Sun, Jun 18 2006, 05:48pm)
hm; another question :

is the 86fhr bp a must in each duel ?
coz when using the max block setup, i'll lack some fhr and I'll have to Shael my circ, and I was plannin to Jah it. it is worth sacrificin the life in it for the fhr ?

(in nvn i'll have 152 ez anyway, just the max block setup bothers me )


Yes. If your going non max block. And block for barbs/bowas/etc just use the 56 FHR bp. They shouldn't be hitting you much. Personally, I'd rather have 86 FHR all the time, and lose ~50 or so life. (Yes it only adds to ~50). Lemme know if that helped.
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Jun 19 2006 05:02pm
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Quote (Ongeboren @ Sun, Jun 18 2006, 05:48pm)
hm; another question :

is the 86fhr bp a must in each duel ?
coz when using the max block setup, i'll lack some fhr and I'll have to Shael my circ, and I was plannin to Jah it. it is worth sacrificin the life in it for the fhr ?

(in nvn i'll have 152 ez anyway, just the max block setup bothers me )


Yes. If your going non max block. And block for barbs/bowas/etc just use the 56 FHR bp. They shouldn't be hitting you much. Personally, I'd rather have 86 FHR all the time, and lose ~50 or so life. (Yes it only adds to ~50). Lemme know if that helped.


well vs all casters I'll anyway have always 86fhr , except for necros icon_pointr.gif 152

that's what I wanted to know, bout the melee duels and thanks, i'll stick with the 56 vs em
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Quote (Ongeboren @ Sun, Jun 18 2006, 05:48pm)
hm; another question :

is the 86fhr bp a must in each duel ?
coz when using the max block setup, i'll lack some fhr and I'll have to Shael my circ, and I was plannin to Jah it. it is worth sacrificin the life in it for the fhr ?

(in nvn i'll have 152 ez anyway, just the max block setup bothers me )


Yes. If your going non max block. And block for barbs/bowas/etc just use the 56 FHR bp. They shouldn't be hitting you much. Personally, I'd rather have 86 FHR all the time, and lose ~50 or so life. (Yes it only adds to ~50). Lemme know if that helped.


well vs all casters I'll anyway have always 86fhr , except for necros icon_pointr.gif 152

that's what I wanted to know, bout the melee duels and thanks, i'll stick with the 56 vs em


My nec ALWAYS has at least 86 FHR. Zerk locking may get an advantage on you. If your smart enough, you can simply walk out of range and tele away. Either way good luck.
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Jun 21 2006 05:26am
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Quote (Scholz @ Tue, May 9 2006, 10:44am)
Valk = ~1.1k FG (perm) unperm is around 250 fg.

icon_pointr.gif lol ? why is that?
buy a unperm and just perm them .. perming is done in one minute.. and then you can sell them for 1.1 k fg easy smile.gif?


Erm...
Thats quite impossible. Thats only temp perm. Only items from 1.09 and
earlier are perm. The 1.10 patch made dupes stay dupes.

Unless there's something I don't know. If there is a way to permanently perm items. Please let me know. wink.gif



Idd then you don't know something :s
never heard of perming items
i mostly do it with duped hr's easy way too do it and never poofed on me
maybe doesnt work on .08 items
and why is unperm then not free..
if it's gonna poof in 1 - 2 hours
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Why the hell do you state "19+/19+" on Hellfire Torch and Annihilus? Couldn't you just say "20/20". Also, I doubt all the resistances necessary, you will have too hard time with ES sorcs anyways.
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Why the hell do you state "19+/19+" on Hellfire Torch and Annihilus? Couldn't you just say "20/20". Also, I doubt all the resistances necessary, you will have too hard time with ES sorcs anyways.


Simply because you don't NEED a perfect torch. And yes the res is necessary. Fire res on necs is not very easy to come by without using fire res charms, etc. Telling people to get perfect items, discourages them somewhat. I do not want that. I want other people to go out and try making a good nec for themselves and having fun with it.
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Why the hell do you state "19+/19+" on Hellfire Torch and Annihilus? Couldn't you just say "20/20". Also, I doubt all the resistances necessary, you will have too hard time with ES sorcs anyways.


Simply because you don't NEED a perfect torch. And yes the res is necessary. Fire res on necs is not very easy to come by without using fire res charms, etc. Telling people to get perfect items, discourages them somewhat. I do not want that. I want other people to go out and try making a good nec for themselves and having fun with it.


Yet 19+ means 20. Or so it looks in my eyes. You should rather type 19-20. And no, I doubt the resistances being necessary in anywhere except pub games, and if your nec is getting teamed against a few ES sorcs, the resistances won't matter for shits, and for 1v1, for fire resistances, you got Hotspurs, am I not right?
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Why the hell do you state "19+/19+" on Hellfire Torch and Annihilus? Couldn't you just say "20/20". Also, I doubt all the resistances necessary, you will have too hard time with ES sorcs anyways.


Simply because you don't NEED a perfect torch. And yes the res is necessary. Fire res on necs is not very easy to come by without using fire res charms, etc. Telling people to get perfect items, discourages them somewhat. I do not want that. I want other people to go out and try making a good nec for themselves and having fun with it.


Yet 19+ means 20. Or so it looks in my eyes. You should rather type 19-20. And no, I doubt the resistances being necessary in anywhere except pub games, and if your nec is getting teamed against a few ES sorcs, the resistances won't matter for shits, and for 1v1, for fire resistances, you got Hotspurs, am I not right?


If I'm reading this right, your saying, "I'm being teamed by 3 sorcs, I might as well not put up a fight and use no res." Correct? And the res are necessary everywhere except vs Hdins, other Bone necs, most melee. You should however ALWAYS have somewhat decent res. (For the exception of some GM duels where you won't need the res whatsoever) You would be suprised. I actually switch my gear for sorcs now, I now use 15res/9dex wizzy, Sshanks, and Spirit vs sorcs for some very nicely stacked res. (Mind you, very rarely do I ever BM. Hotspurs = BM) That allows me to tank 3 Blizz's/3 FB's/ 3-xx Lightnings (pending on dmg of hit). Simple thing, is just don't get hit. That's your main strat either way. FB sorcs have the advantage over others, they should be your only concern until you meet an extreme es light sorc. Blizzers, catch them when the skill timer takes effect. Fber's, come from below, tele above and spear down. Most won't realize what happened, and will die before they are out of FHR lock. Light sorcs, use spirit to lure them, then use the same tactic as you would a FBer. Orbers, well, throw on a raven and they will heal you basically. Remember, 1 piece of absorb IS GM.

Just a question to ya, Ever seen stores sell stuff for like $19.99 and not $20.00? The $19.99 looks more appealing does it not?

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Quote (olba @ Wed, Jun 21 2006, 07:26am)
Why the hell do you state "19+/19+" on Hellfire Torch and Annihilus? Couldn't you just say "20/20". Also, I doubt all the resistances necessary, you will have too hard time with ES sorcs anyways.


Simply because you don't NEED a perfect torch. And yes the res is necessary. Fire res on necs is not very easy to come by without using fire res charms, etc. Telling people to get perfect items, discourages them somewhat. I do not want that. I want other people to go out and try making a good nec for themselves and having fun with it.


Yet 19+ means 20. Or so it looks in my eyes. You should rather type 19-20. And no, I doubt the resistances being necessary in anywhere except pub games, and if your nec is getting teamed against a few ES sorcs, the resistances won't matter for shits, and for 1v1, for fire resistances, you got Hotspurs, am I not right?


If I'm reading this right, your saying, "I'm being teamed by 3 sorcs, I might as well not put up a fight and use no res." Correct? And the res are necessary everywhere except vs Hdins, other Bone necs, most melee. You should however ALWAYS have somewhat decent res. (For the exception of some GM duels where you won't need the res whatsoever) You would be suprised. I actually switch my gear for sorcs now, I now use 15res/9dex wizzy, Sshanks, and Spirit vs sorcs for some very nicely stacked res. (Mind you, very rarely do I ever BM. Hotspurs = BM) That allows me to tank 3 Blizz's/3 FB's/ 3-xx Lightnings (pending on dmg of hit). Simple thing, is just don't get hit. That's your main strat either way. FB sorcs have the advantage over others, they should be your only concern until you meet an extreme es light sorc. Blizzers, catch them when the skill timer takes effect. Fber's, come from below, tele above and spear down. Most won't realize what happened, and will die before they are out of FHR lock. Light sorcs, use spirit to lure them, then use the same tactic as you would a FBer. Orbers, well, throw on a raven and they will heal you basically. Remember, 1 piece of absorb IS GM.


No offense, but I consider such "GM rules" bullshit in public games. How could an ES sorc call you BM when they negate 95% of your dmg? Really, it makes no sense. They deal "more" dmg, so you shouldn't hesitate on negating them. Seriously, even if _you_ have your own rules that you go by, not everyone does. I'm more of a BvC player, so I couldn't care less about the whining of sorcs.

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Just a question to ya, Ever seen stores sell stuff for like $19.99 and not $20.00? The $19.99 looks more appealing does it not?


I've seen commercials say "Under 800, only 799.90", and I just cannot stop laughing, since it's _sooo_ hilarious.
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Things like that dont work on me. I have a round number fetish.
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