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Jun 17 2008 02:15pm
Quote (asSmiLk @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 05:04pm)
Nice guide, but there is a reason that barbs/zons etc only are allowed 1psn charm in their inventory (for legit euro duels anyway)

who the fuck cares about "legit euro duels"? what a joke.

Quote (Shadow_lad @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 06:06pm)
what are you talking about ? switch beast for doom , draculs for clegs and drink a few antidotes before duel

give up, not worth the time. just another n00b who never saw a decent barb/whatever in his life.

"bvc: No block = death by a bowa" HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA level 89 2k life zon HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH ~7k listed damage -> ~2k physical HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH lol seriously zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Jun 17 2008 03:17pm
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give up, not worth the time. just another n00b who never saw a decent barb/whatever in his life.

"bvc: No block = death by a bowa" HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA level 89 2k life zon HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH ~7k listed damage -> ~2k physical HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH lol seriously zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


500 posts, 2 warns, and a worthless comment. To be fair, you've never seen this zon in action, as this build belongs/belonged to only 2 zons on east non ladder, 1 of which is now retired (TG/KcX/BaconTurtle, creator)

And also to be fair, with claiming a no block character is superior to an amazon clearly shows that you've never come across an even decent, let alone, godly amazon.

This is the hype that starts from kids making shit-spawn bowzons and then dueling from town exit.

This comment is worthless to any person who knows what an amazon is capable of.

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what are you talking about ? switch beast for doom , draculs for clegs and drink a few antidotes before duel


So this is when I pull out my cta and hit 4k life. If a barb is going to go through that much trouble to kill a zon he can't kill, then I'll make it all the more impossible.

Quote (manduki @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 12:49pm)
i like it. Just wondering what the justification is for using 5/5's instead of 20-5's since you're tele (excuse me if you explained this previously, i didn't read through your second page)

hmm isn't the damage pretty low for a poison zon? Not sure, but i thought psn zons could have well over 10k damage.

Of course, your life is pretty huge but your damage suffers quite a lot. max resist (though people don't usually care for max psn resist), max block seems to pretty much negate your psn zon =(. Especially if you can have 7k physical damage with 1-1.2k life.


I guess it's my attachment to run/walk still. Teleport is nice, but if you can combine the skill with desynch run/walk, you preform that much better. It's the same concept as telly-walking with a necromancer, except in this instance you walk/run quite a bit faster smile.gif

Dmg isn't that much lower than an amazon with 451's, I have full sets of both and theories aside, 175/20's are by far the superior choice. it's 451 over 12 seconds compared to 175 psn over 6/20 life, I trade 150 psn essentially for 20 life (600+ life gained), well worth it in my opinion.

2.3k life combined with high %'s of dodge negate my damage difference between this and an all dex zon. Some opponents I can't kill nearly as quickly, obviously, but the skills I've developed using this character make it so that even if a character should land a hit or two, I can still take 1-x more. If necessary, and I don't promote 100% defensive dueling, you can simply land a hit and run, land a hit and run, etc. I only use this if my opponent is absolutely ridiculous. generally these are also the modders/aa'ers.
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500 posts, 2 warns, and a worthless comment. To be fair, you've never seen this zon in action, as this build belongs/belonged to only 2 zons on east non ladder, 1 of which is now retired (TG/KcX/BaconTurtle, creator)

And also to be fair, with claiming a no block character is superior to an amazon clearly shows that you've never come across an even decent, let alone, godly amazon.

This is the hype that starts from kids making shit-spawn bowzons and then dueling from town exit.

This comment is worthless to any person who knows what an amazon is capable of.


cry dork. any bvc who can namelock have no problems with real zons and your 2k life 2k damage garbage doesn't even have jav on switch LMAO. barbs would have to give you bo+shout and it would still be an easier duel than any decently geared zon used by someone with iq>70 lol.
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Jun 17 2008 03:29pm
Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 09:17pm)
So this is when I pull out my cta and hit 4k life. If a barb is going to go through that much trouble to kill a zon he can't kill, then I'll make it all the more impossible.


"unkillable" 2k life zon, what a joke hahahahhahahhahahah
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Jun 17 2008 03:33pm
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"unkillable" 2k life zon, what a joke hahahahhahahhahahah


Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 04:27pm)
cry dork. any bvc who can namelock have no problems with real zons and your 2k life 2k damage garbage doesn't even have jav on switch LMAO. barbs would have to give you bo+shout and it would still be an easier duel than any decently geared zon used by someone with iq>70 lol.


edit your posts next time, you're belligerent and therefore your comments look worthless to anyone who reads them.

This isn't pvp section, if you'd like to discuss dueling, pm me. Or better yet, make your BvC on east nl and then pm me.


Discussion's over, pm me if you have any further comments that don't regard the build itself.

This post was edited by sorowfulhatred on Jun 17 2008 03:34pm
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Jun 17 2008 03:44pm
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psn is legit. It's apart of the game, itself, unlike text re-writes.

+ I don't even know who you are, if you're going to call me out you should probably state who your chars are/proof, since right now all you're doing is bull-shittnig smile.gif






I also forgot to mention within the guide that psn% affectors such as psn facets and trangs DO IN FACT affect psn dmg. Dmg shown in character screen IS CORRECT. (unlike with traps..)


you missed the point, kills too slowly to be able to kill someone in bm before they heal, useless for GOOD MANNER dueling because all that poison is considered bm.

the only way its good is with an amping baal party like you normally duel with
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Jun 17 2008 03:51pm
Quote (Milbauer @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 04:44pm)
you missed the point, kills too slowly to be able to kill someone in bm before they heal, useless for GOOD MANNER dueling because all that poison is considered bm.

the only way its good is with an amping baal party like you normally duel with


That's how I know you're lying about having dueled me before. I've never had people amp for me before because they know my phys. dmg is low.

GM on east incorporates psn dmg, if it doesn't that's the most retarded shit I've almost ever heard. Europe gm is worse.
and I bm all the time and have no problems.

I think I've already asked you to pm me, we can settle this with a duel, I think?


before they heal, yes. But a town is still a town.

And more than one player can heal at a time I believe.

This post was edited by sorowfulhatred on Jun 17 2008 03:52pm
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Jun 18 2008 05:43am
Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 09:33pm)
edit your posts next time, you're belligerent and therefore your comments look worthless to anyone who reads them.

This isn't pvp section, if you'd like to discuss dueling, pm me. Or better yet, make your BvC on east nl and then pm me.


Discussion's over, pm me if you have any further comments that don't regard the build itself.



cry dork. any bvc who can namelock have no problems with real zons and your 2k life 2k damage garbage doesn't even have jav on switch LMAO. barbs would have to give you bo+shout and it would still be an easier duel than any decently geared zon used by someone with iq>70 lol.
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Jun 18 2008 06:44am
if a barb telestomps you, you're fucked.
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Jun 18 2008 07:17am
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if a barb telestomps you, you're fucked.


no man, he just pulls out his wizard spike and stabs the barb with normal attack HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

or just outtank the ez barb with bow lol
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