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Quote (xXxS4v4g3xXx @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 06:13am)
Is that sarcasm or sincerity? I can't tell lol...I'm just making sure you are aware of this because it is a very important piece of information. You do realize that smite and fury are two different attacks right? While smite has this problem fury does not, I'm sure you won't believe me but I have tested this on more than one occasion.


they're not taht different in the sense that both fury and smite are stationary. That is the reason they both fail but you wouldn't know that.
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Feb 17 2008 10:46pm
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they're not taht different in the sense that both fury and smite are stationary. That is the reason they both fail but you wouldn't know that.


Sure they are both stationary, but they are not one in the same, as I said "you probably wont believe me, but I have tested this on more than one occasion." If what Myrddrall9 said is true then fine but I doubt you are skilled enough to do that constantly, and when you fuck up once your life is going to drop very fast.

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Smiter....
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Smite isn't melee =/

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Feb 17 2008 11:05pm
Yes i'm sure i just love talking about how a barb works and i have no clue how to play one. Even if i'd suck , the fact that shapeshifters rely on others to make a mistake is still a fact and it's present in every piece of their gameplay.
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Feb 17 2008 11:06pm
I'm getting kind of bored so I'm just going to say this...

Fury druids have the potential to be the best melee build in diablo 2 (I believe this was the original question), they have the capability of killing every build in diablo 2, whether it be with absorb or not, with the exception of bone necromancers for previously stated reasons. These are facts and whether you believe them or not is your problem. Good night.

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Yes i'm sure i just love talking about how a barb works and i have no clue how to play one. Even if i'd suck , the fact that shapeshifters rely on others to make a mistake is still a fact and it's present in every piece of their gameplay.


Rely on others to make mistakes? I do believe this is present in all duels between all builds, if everyone played perfectly no one would get hit and no one would cause damage and no one would win or lose, thanks for another stupid comment.

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Rely on others to make mistakes? I do believe this is present in all duels between all builds, if everyone played perfectly no one would get hit and no one would cause damage and no one would win or lose, thanks for another stupid comment.


wrong , if you do your best as a shapeshifter you can't win just by that because you need that barb to make a wrong ww , that sorceress to sit still for a second more etc.
A barb does not need you to make a mistake because his best is enough to win , a sorc doesnot need you to make a mistake because you can't hit her anyway etc
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Quote (Shadow_lad @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 05:13am)
wrong , if you do your best as a shapeshifter you can't win just by that because you need that barb to make a wrong ww , that sorceress to sit still for a second more etc.
A barb does not need you to make a mistake because his best is enough to win , a sorc doesnot need you to make a mistake because you can't hit her anyway etc


Figured this would happen...I wasnt referring to just fury vs w/e...lets say you have a fire sorc vs another fire sorc, if both of them played PERFECT neither of them would get hit, so neither of them would die, one of them has to make the mistake of either teleporting into a fb or not moving out of the way quick enough, or lets say a bvc vs a sorc, the only way the sorc would lose is if he made the mistake of allowing the bvc to lock with teleport, and the only way the bvc would lose would to make the mistake of not dodging fast enough. The only reason anyone wins is because their opponent made a mistake. As for the fury vs ww duel, like Myrddrall9 said, it would require AI reflexes and timing to do it constantly, its not a mistake if you cant do it.

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Figured this would happen...I wasnt referring to just fury vs w/e...lets say you have a fire sorc vs another fire sorc, if both of them played PERFECT neither of them would get hit, so neither of them would die, one of them has to make the mistake of either teleporting into a fb or not moving out of the way quick enough, or lets say a bvc vs a sorc, the only way the sorc would lose is if he made the mistake of allowing the bvc to lock with teleport, and the only way the bvc would lose would to make the mistake of not dodging fast enough. The only reason anyone wins is because their opponent made a mistake. As for the fury vs ww duel, like Myrddrall9 said, it would require AI reflexes and timing to do it constantly, its not a mistake if you cant do it.


are you a moron? it requires that the barb knows how long his range actualy is. The only thing that's hard about that is it's susceptable to server lag so what you see on your screen might not be true. I ain't going to get into dueling basics with you again but i'll explain it in short : there are matchups between chars and even though it's possible for a smiter to kill a hammerdin , there are more things that can go wrong with the smiters gameplay + there's a natural disadvantage.
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Quote (Shadow_lad @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 05:55am)
are you a moron? it requires that the barb knows how long his range actualy is. The only thing that's hard about that is it's susceptable to server lag so what you see on your screen might not be true. I ain't going to get into dueling basics with you again but i'll explain it in short : there are matchups between chars and even though it's possible for a smiter to kill a hammerdin , there are more things that can go wrong with the smiters gameplay + there's a natural disadvantage.


Smiters can kill Hdins if they suck xD either wait for a break in Spam and charge in or wait for tele-on-you and turn a tele-stomp into a tele-stomped.
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Smiters can kill Hdins if they suck xD either wait for a break in Spam and charge in or wait for tele-on-you and turn a tele-stomp into a tele-stomped.


yeah and fury druids can kill barbs if barbs ww wrong

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Quote (Shadow_lad @ Mon, Feb 18 2008, 06:06am)
yeah and fury druids can kill barbs if barbs ww wrong


Fury druids can kill anything. You show me a WW who can perfectly clip a Wolf druid and ill show you the site where he Downloaded his hacks, okay?
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