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May 14 2004 09:57pm
You get a hell of a lot more damage then just 400 from using a good bramble. A lot more...

COH? 2 skills, some DR, and resists? thats it? Ok, skills for a ww assassin don't help you out that much. You'd be surprised how little actually. Secondly, you get DR from fade, so why would you need it on your armor? Third, you also get massive resists from fade, so again, you won't need them on your armor.

At around lvl 75, you have all the skill points you need to make a complete WW assassin. After that, your just putting points where you think they will benifit you the most. Dragon flight, cloak of shadows, or shadow master. These are certainly not necessary, but they help a little.

Basically, your using COH to save points in fade. But what I am telling you is that you will have all the skill points you need left over to put them into fade. There is no need to save points.

COH is a very poor choice. There is no way in hell you would be able to beat a bramble ww'er if you use coh. No chance...


Also, cloak of shadows is far from worthless. Yocard, if you don't have any assassin experience, then simply don't make comments. But any decent assassin knows the value of cloak. Not only does it raise your defense, and lower your enemies defense, but it also blinds summons and minions of your enemies and makes them not attack you. Cloak rules. I agree a high level cloak may not be for everyone, but to say the skill is worthless just stupid
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May 14 2004 10:35pm
QUOTE (Yocard @ May 14 2004, 03:51 PM)
Cloak oof shadow is Worthless......

yup its gay useless
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May 15 2004 07:44am
QUOTE (HookedOnD2 @ May 15 2004, 06:35 AM)
yup its gay useless

Yea i agree
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May 15 2004 09:08am
with just 1 point in cloak u gain couple hundred def.. n hostiles lose couple def...more chance of hitin n less chance of getin hit..not worthless
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May 15 2004 10:53am
anyone who thinks cloak is worthless doesn't know the first thing about assassins smile.gif
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May 15 2004 05:28pm
shoudl there be 1 point in it or more ?
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May 15 2004 06:40pm
you can do just 1 point, or you can almost max it. WW sins are done with the skills they need most at about lvl 75 or so. Maybe earlier. So from there, you still need to put 10-15 points into something. I recommend 3 choices:

dragon flight

cloak of shadows

shadow master


Its really up to you where you want them. I have mixed dragon flight and cloak of shadows on my sin. My cloak is a high level, about 20 with gear and charms on.

Maybe thats why I have no trouble at all killing anything melee. I have heard people say that they have trouble killing smiters, and sometimes even zealots. I have no problem what so ever with them, so maybe its the cloak of shadows allowing me to hit more.

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May 15 2004 06:55pm
I have a question, of course people are always trying to get the best builds as they can possibly get, but then there are many different types of builds and many types of different people with different opinions. so i'm confused on what to do with my build. on a ww assassin guide on dii.net, it says to max fade and weapon block and then it says here's why:

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Why Max Weapon Block?
Better block percentage.
Weapon Block can block melee attacks and most elemental and magical attacks, including Bone Spirits, Hammers, FOH, Traps, Cold Orbs, Fireballs, and etc.
You can't equip a shield when wielding dual claws therefore utilizing Weapon Block makes sense.

Why Max Fade?
Adds huge resist to all elements.
High curse reduction length. Curses, such as Life Tap and Lower Resist, will expire quickly. Opponents using such curses will be wasting their opportunity against you.
Partially or fully negates the effect of elemental resistance reduction skills such aConviction, Cold Mastery, Lower Resist.
Passive Physical Damage Reduction: 1% PDR per point invested. Level 35 Fade, which is quite normal in this build, provides 35% Physical Damage Reduction.


what would be your say against that? or do you agree? why or why not?
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May 15 2004 08:24pm
i just saw this ww sin with 2 5/5 poison facets socketed into coa with shadow dancer 2 ravens n a 47bramble.. he was ownin everyone..think i could of kiled him if i didnt lag spike hard..
wat u think of that build..coa socketed with shadow dancers
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May 16 2004 03:15am
he already stated, waaaaaay to much str
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