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Feb 4 2008 12:21pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 01:06pm)
This is as far as I got before I laffed so hard I fell out of my chair.

Faith + enigma are absolutly required?  OMFG what the hell would you do without your theoretical runes?


The build would be different. OBVIOUSLY.

And I said THIS summoner... not A summoner. Obviously there are variations, but for this model, there is no reason to have fcr build without nigma....

This post was edited by mephistophilis on Feb 4 2008 12:21pm
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Feb 4 2008 12:22pm
pretty nice guide dude
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Feb 4 2008 02:32pm
i was thinking for the merc, instead of fortitude, if i can replace it with bramble, get thorns aura on my summons too. any input?
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Quote (Sigglez @ Mon, 4 Feb 2008, 22:32)
i was thinking for the merc, instead of fortitude, if i can replace it with bramble, get thorns aura on my summons too. any input?



Quote (mephistophilis @ Mon, 4 Feb 2008, 19:35)
It's 75 I believe. I don't have it all the way maxed. Mine is about 73.


And a new note. Even though you're Faith merc will kill a little slower since you lose the ed from Fort. USE BRAMBLE. I changed my mind. The thorns on this are outstanding.


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Feb 4 2008 02:43pm
Quote (Sigglez @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 08:32pm)
i was thinking for the merc, instead of fortitude, if i can replace it with bramble, get thorns aura on my summons too. any input?


It is gg.
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Feb 4 2008 02:49pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 06:06pm)
This is as far as I got before I laffed so hard I fell out of my chair.

Faith + enigma are absolutly required?  OMFG what the hell would you do without your theoretical runes?


Why does it matter? They're available.
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Feb 4 2008 03:06pm
Quote (chronowarp @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 03:49pm)
Why does it matter?  They're available.


right. It doesnt matter. im not sure where he was going with that.

Quote (Sigglez @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 03:32pm)
i was thinking for the merc, instead of fortitude, if i can replace it with bramble, get thorns aura on my summons too. any input?


i already addressed this on page 3. I switched to bramble

This post was edited by mephistophilis on Feb 4 2008 03:07pm
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Feb 4 2008 03:27pm
honestly, your iron golem even w/o synergys will never die unless you die...I would max CE, max mages, and use beast.
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Feb 4 2008 03:30pm
Quote (chronowarp @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 04:27pm)
honestly, your iron golem even w/o synergys will never die unless you die...I would max CE, max mages,  and use beast.


On Beast:
Quote (mephistophilis @ Mon, Dec 17 2007, 12:13am)


Not to the players insisting on Beast with Pride/Might merc:
1) Baal games usually have a hammer din with 30+ conc which has a better boost than pride for your skellies
2) Faith has a much higher Fanaticism level meaning greater damage from fanat and faster ias.
3) With Beast, good luck maxing resistances and FCR
4) If you use beast and you use FCR rings and gloves and a spirit, you lose 8 Skill levels which is NOT a good thing for a Summoner. I hit level 50 Skills and if I only hit 42, my summons would not be as good as they are at level 50 even with the extra aura boosts.

I have made this build several times and switched back and forth and ultimately, the Hoto Summoner is a better all around build.


he does die. several things can kill him even with the life synergies maxed out.
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Feb 4 2008 03:33pm
Quote (chronowarp @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 04:49pm)
Why does it matter? They're available.


They are available due to the dupes that exist. Besides, you all act as if you cannot make a character work without all these damn runewords. If you need your "nigmas" and "finitys" to complete this game while you UT level, then you are mising the point behind the game. Play how you like, just dont join my games.

Quote (mephistophilis @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 05:06pm)
right. It doesnt matter. im not sure where he was going with that.


Self found players get rather annoyed when reading a "guide" that suggests theoretical runes for runewords and insists that they are "musts"
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