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Nov 8 2021 04:23pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 8 2021 11:13pm)
I assume this is in D2 and not D2r. They are different games. I looked and i see you are trading in d2r, so well:
In D2r:

1. offweapon ias works yay!
2. %ED from weapon, items, jewels and skills, are not applied in D2r. its a bug.

i.e. shapers will not exist in d2r pvp until this is fixed. and well, making a shaper to pvm was always a challenge, so now you have more of a challenge.

Ink i got the above from the community, does this mirror anything you are seeing?


Yeah this seems super incorrect because my wolf is putting out absolute mindboggling magnitudes of damage.
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Nov 8 2021 04:24pm
take off all deadly strike etc and try lvl 1 fury vs lvl 20 fury.
several people (granted at LLD) have commented on this, if you can confirm one way or the other re:
Weapon ed, Jewel ed and skill ED, all working, it would be great.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 8 2021 04:26pm
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Nov 8 2021 04:29pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 8 2021 04:24pm)
take off all deadly strike etc and try lvl 1 fury vs lvl 20 fury.


deadly strike would make no difference - 2x nothing would still be nothing. You are telling me that ED from weapons, items, jewels, and skills are not applied. So that means I'm going around hitting things with a plain eth cryptic axe? i.e. my avg dmg is 91.5?

Diablo has 113,812 hit points in p1 hell and I roast him in a few seconds. Even with 100% crushing blow and 100% deadly strike, doing 91.5*2 avg dmg would take much much much much longer than this.
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Nov 8 2021 04:33pm
i am not telling you, i am saying ppl have tried this at lld and they think something is wrong re: how %ED is being applied across shaper gear/skills. thats its not multiplicative. if thats untrue then great.
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Nov 8 2021 04:45pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 8 2021 11:33pm)
i am not telling you, i am saying ppl have tried this at lld and they think something is wrong re: how %ED is being applied across shaper gear/skills. thats its not multiplicative. if thats untrue then great.


Maybe they are just confusing the ed/min-max bug with this?
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Nov 8 2021 04:48pm
i dont think so. they are old players. ill see if i can get them to post directly here.
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Nov 8 2021 05:14pm
Quote (ferdia @ Nov 8 2021 11:33pm)
i am not telling you, i am saying ppl have tried this at lld and they think something is wrong re: how %ED is being applied across shaper gear/skills. thats its not multiplicative. if thats untrue then great.


It has never been multiplicable, it has always been addetive:
Average * (1+((skill% + stat% + gear% + aura%) /100)) * (1+(ds/100)) * (1-(dr%/100)) - integerDR - MDROverflow
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Nov 8 2021 09:06pm
Quote (tcpgeest @ Nov 8 2021 01:26pm)
Yes, that’s what were are discussing here. Also, Fury wolves one shot everything on p8.


Your fury druid one shot everything in P8 game?

What's your btag? Show me today. My fury druid does up to 16k dmg and it takes like 6 to 8 hits to kill stuff. Still quick but definitely not one shotting anything
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Quote (KimSulki84 @ Nov 9 2021 04:06am)
Your fury druid one shot everything in P8 game?

What's your btag? Show me today. My fury druid does up to 16k dmg and it takes like 6 to 8 hits to kill stuff. Still quick but definitely not one shotting anything


It’s about DPS though. Most things in Chaos have 20k-66k hp on p8. I do about 70k DPS now so most things die fast. Doesn’t always play out like that of course but it is definitely not 6-8 hits.

My setup is full Strength and HoW, with a Might Merc. Using eTomb and Fortitude.
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Nov 9 2021 02:55am
So with this:

90 IAS Tombreaver needs 80 gear IAS to reach 3/3/3/3/5 frames
95 IAS Tombreaver needs 75 gear IAS to reach 3/3/3/3/5 frames
100 IAS Tombreaver needs 0 gear IAS to reach 3/3/3/3/5 frames, but reaches 3/3/3/3/4 with 60 gear IAS.
These calcs require 74 Werewolf IAS

Is there a way for a 90 IAS Tombreaver to hit 3/3/3/3/4? I can probably get up to level 40 Werewolf with prebuffing. I think that's 75 or 76 IAS. I can also get 60 IAS from Armor, 20 from Amulet, 15 from Helm and 20 from Gloves. For a total of 115.
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