regardless of how agressive you try to play most of the time you just won't get many hits in row vs good players playing on block chars. You never need to rely purely on ow (except maybe vs some sorcs), it just comes along for the ride. 1 ow hit is worth of about 1000-1200 pvp damage (before %DR is factored in), and so you could say that having 25% ow is pretty close to 250 more pvp damage per hit and 50% ow 500 pvp damage per hit, assuming the hits are mostly single hits. now of course in reality you will hit multiple times in row at times, but if you have 25% ow on both sides and hit multiple times the chances of procing ow multiple times in a hit sequence are decently low

having higher raw damage will be better in certain matchups but you can just stash a grief and use it when you like. grief is pretty much equal to high ed axe with LoLo in damage but if you LoUm the axe or maybe UmUm you get some benefits grief can't offer

Good points, thanks

whats so bad about him on barb ?

Well he claims he uses EDC, but perhaps he was joking.

how does this make you a bad player?



Omfg.. what happened,, ^

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 24 2012 06:59pm

Well, not saying he's unskilled, but because of how ineffective the weapon is, even someone like myself would be more effective with a barb if I used Grief and he used EDC.

yes, but the other guy is talking about his skill obviously..

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 24 2012 07:10pm

I just find his other chars played to perfection,and the baba is not. Doesnt mean its bad,just not perfect. Other baba video was a little better.

you cant judge a player based on video's

Well I watched his necro vs dru video and he's fucking incredible w/ nec. His ability to read people's movement and plan spirit trains/teeth where he thinks they will go is nuts