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#691
Aug 11 2009 02:36am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:35am)
My argument is that you'll have trouble hitting smiters, not that you'll lose.
Ideally that IK barb could win 100% of his duels against smiters, but the longer it takes, due to your low ar, the more chances you have to screw up.

But imo baal party needs 4+ joderdins to get started


either way, why you would swap out all that gear to wear hsurus and angelics is beyond me...
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#692
Aug 11 2009 02:38am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:35am)
My argument is that you'll have trouble hitting smiters, not that you'll lose.
Ideally that IK barb could win 100% of his duels against smiters, but the longer it takes, due to your low ar, the more chances you have to screw up.

But imo baal party needs 4+ joderdins to get started


Well if you're not talking about sorbing then stunlocking makes it way easier to hit smiters.
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#693
Aug 11 2009 02:40am
Quote (Bryant @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:38am)
Well if you're not talking about sorbing then stunlocking makes it way easier to hit smiters.


or just stun using wake of fire when they start sorbing light damage :bouncy:
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#694
Aug 11 2009 02:41am
Quote (sylvannos @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 03:36am)
either way, why you would swap out all that gear to wear hsurus and angelics is beyond me...


against a sorbing smiter, if you seriously had that crap in your stash, it'd be worth it.
mostly a hyperbole. But still

hybrids gonna have 190 less % ar compared to a ghost, and often they lack fools claws. Even this one, as you said, gets 5700 with regular setup, 13000 fools. Well, 13000 AR is only a 20% chance to hit a 50k defense paladin, and thats a 95% chance to miss overall; you'll land 1/20 hits. Now thats what I'd call "trouble hitting smiters"
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#695
Aug 11 2009 02:41am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:41am)
against a sorbing smiter, if you seriously had that crap in your stash, it'd be worth it.
mostly a hyperbole. But still

hybrids gonna have 190 less % ar compared to a ghost, and often they lack fools claws. Even this one, as you said, gets 5700 with regular setup, 13000 fools. Well, 13000 AR is only a 20% chance to hit a 50k defense paladin, and thats a 95% chance to miss overall; you'll land 1/20 hits. Now thats what I'd call "trouble hitting smiters"


tl;dr.
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#696
Aug 11 2009 02:46am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:41am)
against a sorbing smiter, if you seriously had that crap in your stash, it'd be worth it.
mostly a hyperbole. But still

hybrids gonna have 190 less % ar compared to a ghost, and often they lack fools claws. Even this one, as you said, gets 5700 with regular setup, 13000 fools. Well, 13000 AR is only a 20% chance to hit a 50k defense paladin, and thats a 95% chance to miss overall; you'll land 1/20 hits. Now thats what I'd call "trouble hitting smiters"


Theorycrafting is boring.
And most hybrids (the good ones) do have fools claws.
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#697
Aug 11 2009 02:48am
Quote (Bryant @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 03:46am)
Theorycrafting is boring.
And most hybrids (the good ones) do have fools claws.


yea well thats 20% chance to hit with fools on, 10% without :x
landing 1/20 hits is pretty harsh.
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#698
Aug 11 2009 02:50am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:48am)
yea well thats 20% chance to hit with fools on, 10% without :x
landing 1/20 hits is pretty harsh.


yes because shift + smite > and you don't have traps or mindblast.
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#699
Aug 11 2009 02:52am
Quote (sylvannos @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 03:50am)
yes because shift + smite > and you don't have traps or mindblast.


charge + charge + charge
pew pew

everyone knows that hybrids should beat smiters, its just that when they sorb its a painful duel because they are hard to hit
so don't pretend its easy to hit them
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#700
Aug 11 2009 02:53am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:52am)
charge + charge + charge
pew pew

everyone knows that hybrids should beat smiters, its just that when they sorb its a painful duel because they are hard to hit
so don't pretend its easy to hit them


Who cares if it's a lengthy duel? You still win and don't need that extra garbage...
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