It should be more than a little. My wolf is full titan and uses HoW and Fort adds a large part of on-screen damage which I am sure translates well in to DPS as well. Haven’t done the math but on character screen it seems to add a bit over 25%. Granted, a Fortitude set-up means you lose 40 or 80 ED from the Tombreaver. And with Tomb + Treachery you can probably go for a 40/15 in the helm slot.

On the previous page I did some math assuming 3/3/3/3/5 eTomb with 280 ED (2x Shael so you need minimal gear ias/ww level to hit 3 frames) vs eBotD Archon at 4/4/4/4/7 assuming perfect gear. It very narrowly beats this eTomb set-up. I did not account for the additional points in Dex you can now put in STR as well as the other strong offensive mods on eBotD (250%ED to Undead), not to mention getting a 400%+ BotD is much easier than getting a 270%+ ED 3os eTomb.

However using some more IAS gear, and going up to 320% or 360% ED on eTomb might favor it again over eBotD Archon. We should do some more DPS comparisons with various gear set-ups using 4 frame and 3 frame weapons (is there anything that can compete with eTomb and eBotD at all?) and see if we can decide on a BiS for DPS gear list for PvM Fury builds.

This post was edited by tcpgeest on Nov 8 2021 02:41pm

Assuming you have the same fpa, the ed/ias jewels + treachery is not much different than shaels+fort. Here I'll show you.

Total ED without fort will be: 610 (lvl31 fury) + 202 (lvl27 HoW) + 155 (str for eth ca) + 280 (lvl25 might from merc) = 1247

The added (avg) weapon damage from 2x 40/15s in eth tomb reaver is 0.8 * 91.5 * 1.5 = 109.8
Now multiply this by the 1+ED to get the total added damage on your sheet: 109.8*(1+12.47) = 1479 avg damage added

Now compare this to the case of 2x shaels + fort. The added damage from fort will just be 3 * (avg dmg of eth tomb reaver).
Let's say you have a 260ed etomb: 3 * (91.5 * 1.5 * 3.6) = 1482

tldr:
treachery+ed/ias jewels is 1479 dmg added
fort+shaels is 1482 dmg added

Edit:
And note, if you choose to use a pride with your merc, the ED will be even higher to the point that treachery will actually be slightly more damage.

This post was edited by vertster123 on Nov 8 2021 03:02pm

This sounds like solo player (or 1-5 player games) pvm wolf meta to me tbh.

Yes, that’s what were are discussing here. Also, Fury wolves one shot everything on p8.

Maybe the highest dps would be some jewelers armor of the whale with 4x 40/15s

Edit: imagine spending the time to put that armor together only to have this ias stuff patched before you get to use it heh

This post was edited by vertster123 on Nov 8 2021 03:32pm

I did not know that the math is calculated like that. Seems almost like a drop in the bucket then.

I still don't think Treachery is a good option though. FHR you don't need because getting to the 42% or 86% BP is very easy. Fade doesn't do much when you are already resistance capped (easy enough with eTomb and you can prebuff Treachery if you want to do Ubers). 15% DR seems pointless on a melee build that takes effectively zero damage due to high life leech.

Maybe a better option would be a good craft or rare? Or a 4os 100 life magic armor with 40/15s? Should be easy to make up the 25-30 res you lose on Fort. Fort has other good mods though: Chilling Armor, the life mod, (though 100 life on magic armor would obv be much more extra life), the all res and high base def.

You gotta show me what in doing wrong! It def takes me time to mow mobs down in P8 and I’m using a eth 3OS tomb reaver with Ed/ias jewels (like 335ed) . Pretty standard after that, LoH, string of ears, highlords, gore riders, some nice max/ar/life charms. I’m still missing the fort though and using duress (or treachery to hit 3/3/3/3/5).

Maybe it is your inventory? I run 8x shape lifer and max dmg small charms. Other than that same gear, and as vertster just showed us, Forti doesn't add that much. Maybe you're not using HoW and not using a damage aura merc? Maybe you have points in vit instead of str? If you have life shapers (they cost like 100-150 fg each for 30+), you should easily hit 2.5k life with zero points in vit. No point at all to stat vit on a pvm wolf.

I assume this is in D2 and not D2r. They are different games. I looked and i see you are trading in d2r, so well:
In D2r:

1. offweapon ias works yay!
2. %ED from weapon, items, jewels and skills, are not applied in D2r. its a bug.

i.e. shapers will not exist in d2r pvp until this is fixed. and well, making a shaper to pvm was always a challenge, so now you have more of a challenge.

Ink i got the above from the community, does this mirror anything you are seeing?

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 8 2021 04:18pm

Where have you seen this? There is no way we'd be one-shotting things (and yes I'm talking about d2r) with any weapon, regardless how strong, unless ED from fury etc was working properly.