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Aug 11 2009 02:18am
Quote (l.e.g.e.n.d @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 03:17am)
An IK barb would do well vs a smiter....
That is assuming the smiter isn't telesmiting.


i've always advocated for smiters to carry eth lacerators in their stash as backups for those sorts of situations.
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Aug 11 2009 02:19am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 04:18am)
i've always advocated for smiters to carry eth lacerators in their stash as backups for those sorts of situations.


Probably works well for killing max block bone nec's too
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Aug 11 2009 02:22am
why ww a smiter when you can just spam traps? :O

nn ar for that.
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Aug 11 2009 02:24am
Quote (sylvannos @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 03:22am)
why ww a smiter when you can just spam traps? :O.


Smiters and sorb go together like peanut butter and jelly, like women and seamen
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Aug 11 2009 02:25am
Quote (sylvannos @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 04:22am)
why ww a smiter when you can just spam traps? :O

nn ar for that.


cuz most will sorb you, its really easy to hit smiters, even w/ their high defense,
you get a suprising amount of hits by ww'ing diagonally away, even w/ fury on you cna get a decent amount of hits.
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Aug 11 2009 02:26am
if they gonna sorb then they're also taping :O
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Aug 11 2009 02:29am
Quote (Bryant @ Tue, 11 Aug 2009, 04:44)
First off, chaos gives 35 IAS.
Second, secondary claw IAS doesn't count for trap laying speed, so your 30 IAS from your war fist is useless. Bringing that IAS up doesn't help your argument at all.
Third, fools claw only works on primary claw. Don't try to tell me it works for offhand too and it's just hidden, there were tests done by max (zeichiek) but I lost the video.


actually the video was lost ^^
I have the link to that video, however it doesnt work



http://media.putfile.com/fools-claw-ar-on-ww
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Aug 11 2009 02:30am
Quote (deathwinger @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:10am)
Yes, you can whirl at diagonal angles away from the smiter to keep getting hitchecks against him while he can't hit you. But without stacked AR, you'll be missing a hell of a lot. Thats 'trouble hitting smiters'
The problem is that even a single mistake can result in getting charged/smited and die. Being too predictable makes you easy pickings for telesmite, etc.

Honestly, if your entire argument was "I angle whirlwind away", an IK barb could do just as well against a smiter.


If your entire argument is "sorb your traps and you're ez" then we might as well just talk about getting 2 hdins together for a spam fest.

Quote (tudey @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:29am)
actually the video was lost ^^
I have the link to that video, however it doesnt work



http://media.putfile.com/fools-claw-ar-on-ww


Yea I had a feeling it was lost. Putfile suddenly disapeared :-(

This post was edited by Bryant on Aug 11 2009 02:31am
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Aug 11 2009 02:32am
Quote (Bryant @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 01:30am)
If your entire argument is "sorb your traps and you're ez" then we might as well just talk about getting 2 hdins together for a spam fest.


exactly :O
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Aug 11 2009 02:35am
Quote (Bryant @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 03:30am)
If your entire argument is "sorb your traps and you're ez" then we might as well just talk about getting 2 hdins together for a spam fest.


My argument is that you'll have trouble hitting smiters, not that you'll lose.
Ideally that IK barb could win 100% of his duels against smiters, but the longer it takes, due to your low ar, the more chances you have to screw up.

But imo baal party needs 4+ joderdins to get started
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