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Sep 5 2009 01:36am
nice guide....have to try this one out someday
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Sep 5 2009 01:42am
Quote (deathwinger @ Sat, 5 Sep 2009, 02:00)
Even level 1 volcano will proc your opponents blocking animation, which works like this:
If the volcano is blocked, they will be thrown into FBR, which interrupts anything they are doing. After the FBR is finished, they cannot be thrown into FBR for another 10 frames (0.4 seconds)

However, FHR will work like this:
If the volcano ISN'T blocked, it will put them into FHR, which will interrupt their animations, and is not capped like FBR with its timer, based upon how much damage it does after reductions:1/16th of their HP = 37.5% chance to FHR
1/8th of their HP = 75% chance to FHR
1/4 of their HP = 100% chance to FHR

This is based on their MAXIMUM hp and occurs after all reductions, based upon how much life they lose (but before they 'heal' back from absorb)

Hence a 2600 damage volcano (1150 physical 1450 fire), against a 75% fire resist 8% dr character, will have the following cutoffs:
37.5% FHR :: 3800 MAX HP
75% FHR :: 1900 MAX HP
100% FHR :: 950 MAX HP


What is worth noting here is that even though your fire damage is higher than your physical, the damage after reductions would be 3/4 physical, 1/4 fire.

That same volcano, against  75% resist 50% dr character:
37.5% FHR :: 2500 MAX HP
75% FHR :: 1250 MAX HP
100% FHR: 625 MAX HP


What is important to note from this is that you will not be putting huge tank characters into FHR with volcano, only FBR. For example, a hammerdin with 4000 HP and 75% resist, 50% dr, will not be thrown into FHR, and his  FBR will only last 2 frames thanks to holy shield. Meanwhile, a vita sorc, or an es sorc after her shield is down, or an amazon, or necro after his armor is broken, will most likely be thrown into either 37.5% or even 75% for baddies. Which is why Volcano is so incredibly deadly against casters, but rather impotent against tanks. Hence, for example, a duel against a BvC will almost never ever involved volcano whatsoever, whereas it is your main tool against a sorceress. A BvC is instead killed by fissure & grizzly, and a sorceress dies to volcano/grizzly.


too bad that all decent necs have decent dr as well =/
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Quote (tudey @ Sat, Sep 5 2009, 02:42am)
too bad that all decent necs have decent dr as well =/


trust me, if the necros don't break the 1/16 damage threshold with 50% dr / mass life, it wouldn't be a duel in the first place, shamans would win 99:1
its only really a fun duel when they're stacked high enough HP that you don't put them into FHR with volcano.
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Sep 5 2009 08:57am
Interesting concept and looks like it'd be pretty damn viable if played right and geared well.

Would love to try one if I still played / had extra funds.
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Sep 6 2009 12:05pm
Could be constructed once enigma's are available on the new ladder.
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Sep 6 2009 12:30pm
xD
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Sep 6 2009 05:38pm
Thanks for guide, been wanting to make a fire druid but this looks more versatile.
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Quote (du3nd3 @ Sun, Sep 6 2009, 06:38pm)
Thanks for guide, been wanting to make a fire druid but this looks more versatile.


Yah, fire druids are ok, but tend to be weak because of their lack of ability to follow up on attacks and be offensive in general.
I've seen a few good ones, but their best tactic is just to make you chase them through fissures/geddon. Shaman could do the same thing with just slapping on mass facets/ravenlore, yet is so much more
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Quote (deathwinger @ Mon, Sep 7 2009, 12:30am)
Yah, fire druids are ok, but tend to be weak because of their lack of ability to follow up on attacks and be offensive in general.
I've seen a few good ones, but their best tactic is just to make you chase them through fissures/geddon. Shaman could do the same thing with just slapping on mass facets/ravenlore, yet is so much more


you mean that l8zing isnt the best way to duel? ffs
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you mean that l8zing isnt the best way to duel? ffs


don't worry ill leave blizz sorcs & bone necros intact
archiacox was around a long time ago
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