[QUOTE=CheeseOfDoom,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 09:25pm][QUOTE=sorowfulhatred,Sun, Dec 14 2008, 12:22am][QUOTE=CheeseOfDoom,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 01:22pm]you've never played west, you dont know if there are any good zons or not
a zon vs an hdin, the strategy is pretty easy to pull off, im sure itd be the same fight east or west
your type of zon would be an easier zon to fight then a normal one, because your only source of dmg vs me is your open wounds and your insanely low physical dmg, when i have max block 4.5k hp max dr, i dont think your gonna do much
quit with the cockyness, your zon is bad delete it[/QUOTE]
Read what I've written below, and please do not mistake my zon's build any further. Open wounds is an option, not a staple.[QUOTE=tudey,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 12:09pm]How can you be so sure about this? Have you tried eud2pk, eu and west?[/QUOTE]
He may be going from something I've said, the league bowas of Europe and their builds are to me, lackluster. They limit the gear choice and choke the build into one category (glass cannon), which really imo gives the class a disadvantage vs. all. That type of bowa is best used for dueling nothing other than bowas of it's own kind: 2-shots dead.[QUOTE=majorblood,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 04:19am]you don't understand how easy a rabies druid is to avoid...[/QUOTE]
??? The point of you being in this thread is to antagonize? Everything you've said has already been covered within the thread, I suggest you put your glasses on and re-read. You contribute nothing.[QUOTE=majorblood,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 04:10am]? zon is complete shit compared to hdin in bm holy
if we're using mercs then it's obviously bm
marrowwalks + merc > zon[/QUOTE]
I tellyport. The point of marrowalks would be then for... show? The point of valk is to allow me the seconds I need to counter either characters or their summons. And unlike the merc, I have an unlimited supply.[QUOTE=edgie,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 04:07am]Thanks
I love dueling with shifters. And I'll say it before anybody moans: my fury is 4 frame my rabies is actually 5
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ballsy[QUOTE=edgie,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 03:55am]
Lol you have 60 FRW on your zon and no teleport? You really, REALLY have to stop running your mouth.Lol just because your responses entertain me. Explain your way out of this:
I have a fury/rabies druid who cranks out 55-60k poison dmg along with -75 enemy resistance in a single bite. He has more FRW than you (by a large margin), 7k unboed life, max DR and a 4 frame 3 range attack. Explain to me how you have any chance at beating this character? I kill you in one bite:
10k PSN dmg after PvP penatly with -75res = dead zon. Go ahead. Talk shit.[/QUOTE]
I had 185 frw and 99 fcr, after some tweaking, as well as stacked resists 50-100+, bow out. (i realise you're talking to him, tho)
[QUOTE=Day_z,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 12:39am]Good guide, you clearly know what your talking about and even made a zon's valk useful vs some chars
To make the long story short, I love your guide.[/QUOTE]
God, thank you These people have no imagination![QUOTE=CheeseOfDoom,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 12:33am]you really think its that hard to dodge a hammer? any zon on west could use the same strategy, but no matter what you would do, you would do relatively no dmg and you would eventually get hit. a real zon with a build that isnt easy to counter like yours could beat me.[/QUOTE]
174,000 phys - 50% dr still = 87,000. You can counter dmg, but the point is that I outlast you. Even if I do pathetic damage within an unfair duel, you'll be forced to either town or die.[QUOTE=CheeseOfDoom,Fri, Dec 12 2008, 09:00pm]16 antidote pots vs 350 arrows, antidote pots stack in duration idiot. plus with my max block only 1/4 of those arrows will hit
if i have a merc and you attempt to multi it(rofl) thatll use up even more arrows.
it is very easy to dodge a guided arrow and even a multi, its easy to dodge hammers if you walk around but
sometimes you get stuck on the person who teleported, and you dont even know it because its lag.
plus i can just lead hammer/make invis hammers everywhere, nobody said i have to tele on you to kill you.
even teleing on you would work, if your running south the whole time, when you stop to shoot thats my chance
so youll have to keep running and running
and about that "zons dont flinch" thing, thats 100% bullcrap, zons DO flinch, every character flinches
dodge lock isnt what im talking about, although that does kind of the same thing[/QUOTE]
I will always target a merc and summons before I target a character, that's just how intelligent people operate. 3 ga's fired = 2 for the merc, 1 for you. Stun from block animation/landed arrow = move away, repeat.
Here's the math for you:
1/4th of 350 is 87 (that's 25% of my arrows landing). 87x2k phys = 174,000 phys - pvp penalty. 87x 10k psn = 870,000 psn - pvp penalty. 87x 300 open wounds = 26,100 life with pvp penalty.
Are you telling me your hammerdin can take a combined 1,044,000 dmg - pvp penalty + 26,100 life lost from open wounds..?
I would highly suggest reevaluating your circumstances, because you won't be hitting me with a hammerdin.[QUOTE=Ziecheik,Sat, Dec 13 2008, 06:31pm]wow rage.[/QUOTE]
Why they hates me?[/QUOTE]
you realise, not even close to all of those arrows are even going to reach me, ga is very easy to dodge
and im pretty sure youd have to wait till open wounds effect is over to shoot me again for it to get the full duration
you can go ahead and tp and buy more arrows
when you run out after missing mostly every shot, but imo thatd be a win for me.[/QUOTE]
How do manage to avoid almost 350 target guided arrows, expecially when someone nls them to u? Kinda curious.