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Quote (funkynoc1 @ Thu, Dec 11 2008, 07:55pm)
while you are fleeing ill tp to town get more arrows and spam multi in the direction you fleed too and repeat. If you dont have max block you have no bussiness tryin to telestomp a good bowzon unless you use AA.


......LOL
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Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Fri, Dec 12 2008, 11:56am)
I've only lost to one person using this type of build and he had a merc on top of his own edited version of Tee-mcPK, and chicken set on 90% life.
And even then I managed to kill him.


yeah i bet you killed a 90% autoping tmcpker w/ a valk/poison zon holy shit lol...............

/e and triple post >

Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Fri, Dec 12 2008, 12:15pm)
There are characters in the game that have natural advantages over most: hammerdin, windy, smiter, bowa-rands, foh, auradin, etc.., and can be much more easy to handle than other choices, and also much more simple to use for basic duelers ("point-click")
These are the characters you see an abundance of.

Then there are characters that take great skill: wwasn (takes the cheese), shapeshifter, telezons, hammerdin hybrids etc.., and when mastered become the top-choice characters for duelers who A.) desire a challenge and B.) want to be the best.
These are characters you don't see in privs or pubs. Most have retired or moved on to d2pk, or duel in games you've never been invited to.
These are also some of the characters, that when mastered, become legends because of the falsely accused short-comings most people think they have.


Point-in-case, those who play this game better than you or anyone you're familiar with can make a jab zon and stomp a game with it.

? ya shapeshifter takes skill, obviously .. ? lol
Quote (edgie @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 02:07am)
Thanks smile.gif I love dueling with shifters.  And I'll say it before anybody moans: my fury is 4 frame my rabies is actually 5 tongue.gif


you don't understand how easy a rabies druid is to avoid...

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i wouldnt know about fighting a rabies druid, ive heard they are good if the person playing is good with them
but i know for a fact that this zon build is a complete waste of time and these guys are too cocky to admit
that its a bad zon.
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Quote (majorblood @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 04:19am)
you don't understand how easy a rabies druid is to avoid...


Why don't you read a few of the posts prior to mine to understand the context under which I'm posting?

I obviously do understand how easy shifters are to avoid. But when I have more than double the FRW of Mattd90's zon and he has no teleport then I have a feeling I'll be able to catch him.

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Quote (edgie @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 03:55am)
Lol you have 60 FRW on your zon and no teleport? You really, REALLY have to stop running your mouth.



Lol just because your responses entertain me. Explain your way out of this:

I have a fury/rabies druid who cranks out 55-60k poison dmg along with -75 enemy resistance in a single bite. He has more FRW than you (by a large margin), 7k unboed life, max DR and a 4 frame 3 range attack. Explain to me how you have any chance at beating this character? I kill you in one bite:

10k PSN dmg after PvP penatly with -75res = dead zon. Go ahead. Talk shit.


So whats ur fhr? How do u plan on getting out of a massive wave of arrows chunking out of ur life with loads of kb? Ive faced fury/rabies, fury and rabies druids all with better stats than urs, and i end up killing them a majority of the time. They have no way of dodging those arrows like a char with tele, charge etc... ur a sitting duck for me to just spam at u. I will give u the benefit of the doubt that u may kill me 1-2 times in a ft5 duel if u manage to hit me AND have the poison kill me before I kill you.

Quote (majorblood @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 04:10am)
? zon is complete shit compared to hdin in bm holy

if we're using mercs then it's obviously bm
marrowwalks + merc > zon


merc is just 1-2 hits for that hdin to take. Even if the merc has hf, or the hdin is using doomz, its not hard at all to avoid their attacks, which leaves them very open for spam still.

Quote (CheeseOfDoom @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 06:17am)
i wouldnt know about fighting a rabies druid, ive heard they are good if the person playing is good with them
but i know for a fact that this zon build is a complete waste of time and these guys are too cocky to admit
that its a bad zon.


You're on west, that explains everything. East and D2pk are honestly the only places I can safely say you will find a good zon. So you are forgiven for shit talking about it since you havent had to feel its punch yet.

Quote (edgie @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 11:15am)
Why don't you read a few of the posts prior to mine to understand the context under which I'm posting?

I obviously do understand how easy shifters are to avoid. But when I have more than double the FRW of Mattd90's zon and he has no teleport then I have a feeling I'll be able to catch him.


Would be easy to catch me, if you dont die before landing a hit on me. Refer to the top post.
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Dec 13 2008 11:09am
Quote (Mattd90 @ Sat, 13 Dec 2008, 19:46)


You're on west, that explains everything. East and D2pk are honestly the only places I can safely say you will find a good zon. So you are forgiven for shit talking about it since you havent had to feel its punch yet.


How can you be so sure about this? Have you tried eud2pk, eu and west?
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Quote (tudey @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 12:09pm)
How can you be so sure about this? Have you tried eud2pk, eu and west?


Im basing this off their opinions. Ive havent heard anyone good on USEast in this forum shit talk his zon, mainly because they have dueled it and know its potential. Why shit talk a character build that you have lost to or that has given you a very hard time? Any east player who shit talks him has obviously never dueled the zon, and I encourage them to do so, but these people are so rare to pop up.

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you've never played west, you dont know if there are any good zons or not
a zon vs an hdin, the strategy is pretty easy to pull off, im sure itd be the same fight east or west

your type of zon would be an easier zon to fight then a normal one, because your only source of dmg vs me is your open wounds and your insanely low physical dmg, when i have max block 4.5k hp max dr, i dont think your gonna do much

quit with the cockyness, your zon is bad delete it
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Dec 13 2008 01:42pm
Quote (CheeseOfDoom @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 01:22pm)
you've never played west, you dont know if there are any good zons or not
a zon vs an hdin, the strategy is pretty easy to pull off, im sure itd be the same fight east or west

your type of zon would be an easier zon to fight then a normal one, because your only source of dmg vs me is your open wounds and your insanely low physical dmg, when i have max block 4.5k hp max dr, i dont think your gonna do much

quit with the cockyness, your zon is bad delete it


First off, my zon is 100% vita, 100% physical. I took my build from Spartikis, not sorrow. The reason i defend his build is because i've dueled it and know its good, end of story.

I have this crazy idea, how about all you pussies stop theorycrafting, get off ur ass, and duel him. He's always open for 1v1 as he said before plenty of times. If you are going to hide behind the fact that ur on west, euro, d2pk or w/e and you cant duel him, then how about don't open ur fuckin mouth cuz u dont have the right to an opinion til u dueled it, so go away k?

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Quote (Mattd90 @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 07:42pm)
First off, my zon is 100% vita, 100% physical. I took my build from Spartikis, not sorrow. The reason i defend his build is because i've dueled it and know its good, end of story.

I have this crazy idea, how about all you pussies stop theorycrafting, get off ur ass, and duel him. He's always open for 1v1 as he said before plenty of times. If you are going to hide behind the fact that ur on west, euro, d2pk or w/e and you cant duel him, then how about don't open ur fuckin mouth cuz u dont have the right to an opinion til u dueled it, so go away k?


YES SIR.
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