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Dec 30 2021 06:10am
Quote (daanno2 @ Dec 29 2021 10:24pm)
First and foremost, great detailed guide and discussion on gear choices. I think you've single handedly influenced the economy in terms of supply/demand on some of these niche gf items :rofl:

That being said, I myself find the playstyle to be..super clunky and micro intensive. In particular, in your videos, having to do some inventory swapping for demon limb/gravel, and then having to repair almost every run. To each their own, but I prefer a more..active, yet brainless/dummyproof trav approach. Just the standard grief WW setup, then switch to dual ali babs for horking.

I know you've mentioned previously that the "active" approach might be comparable or even faster if the timer decreases, which it has now. Any testing/additional thoughts on this since then? For me, time for each run is around 90s, but that's mostly due to a bad habit of picking up way to much crap to id and associated vendoring/inventory (jewels, a lot blues, some rares, gems, lol). The actual time to kill in trav might be 10s. Fill up gold cap around 30-35min, but I suspect this could be much lower if I was more gold-focused.

Here's my setup:

LVL91
20 WW
20 Sword Mastery
20 BO
14 find item (19 after +skills, should prbly max this instead)
7 natural resisitance
6 shout
1 berserk
bunch of 1 pt wonders/prereqs

Gear
Grief PB/broken offhand
swap: dual 2xlem babas
Dual Lem Ik helm
Wilhem belt for dual leech (ideally a crafted ammy or ring has this. have used mav belt previously for the frw, back when I used a different ammy with LL)
2x dstar
Wealth
LoH or Chancies
Rare 30frw/res/79%gf boots
Crafted tele ammy with res/dex/fcr (<-super useful for merc reposition)

Charms:
Gheeds
5x 36-40gf gcs, with a mixture of barb mastery, max dmg/ar, and a 14allres one
torch, anni, misc gf/res scs to fill out resistances.

Merc
non-eth reaper's toll, shael'd (yes it does shatter a body very occasionally)
Kira's 70res with 15ias/10res all jewel = 80res
Upp'd eth GA, ral'd
With this setup he never dies; maintains 90% fire res through conviction

What a run looks like

Start off in beginning of a3 (I realize tping to a4 might be faster, but between load screens and having to vendor at ormus anyway, I don't mind the trek)
Id/vendor at ormus
deposit gold/items in stash
wp-> trav
walk to edge of steps, then teleport to where council mob is
decrep procs usually within 1st 3 merc hits. I WW.
If a different pack is in another room, teleport there and repeat
If there's just a single straggler, I just switch to baba and start horking, let merc finish off.
Pick up stuff and exit/reload.

GF/MF<- could be a bit higher with 2xmore gcs, but I pick up a lot of stuff so prefer to leave inv free

When klling 1080gf/175mf
When hork, 1835gf/357mf

This is with LoH. Avg gold per run=450k.
With Chancies, avg gold per run=420kish. Kill speed is about 1/3 slower, but I just don't like that I have to pay more attention to my life pool lol.


With this approach I only need to repair probably once every 10-15 runs. Merc can survive no problem, his function is to proc decrep and give might aura. Main advantages I see for me is again, a lot easier to play, a lot less micro. A lot less gf/mf while killing, comparable when horking. Potentially with the decreased timer, this build can be faster killing wise than the merc dps - Grief has ITD and -25% defense. Slightly less cost repairing and a lot less time spent going to repair. Just wondering if anyone has a more min/maxed version of the WW build and what their stats are?

Thanks in advance.


Without enigma and raven, you've got a cannot be frozen problem, might slow down your runs by a lot if you're hit by blizzard one the way. I usually bypass the problem with cham, tranq's belt or runemaster.
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Dec 30 2021 07:44am
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Without enigma and raven, you've got a cannot be frozen problem, might slow down your runs by a lot if you're hit by blizzard one the way. I usually bypass the problem with cham, tranq's belt or runemaster.


how do you incorporate runemaster into this build? 5x lem while merc kills? for the active ww build, seems like it would neuter dps a lot if equipped offhand.
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Dec 30 2021 07:45am
Quote (daanno2 @ 30 Dec 2021 08:44)
how do you incorporate runemaster into this build? 5x lem while merc kills? for the active ww build, seems like it would neuter dps a lot if equipped offhand.


No, as an OH weap it'd be fine. Shouldn't be that big a dip if you put in ED/GF jewels.
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Dec 30 2021 07:55am
Quote (Exokek @ Dec 30 2021 08:45am)
No, as an OH weap it'd be fine. Shouldn't be that big a dip if you put in ED/GF jewels.


gotcha. and would you use an eth RM or save a socket with a non eth? just sold a perfect eth 5os one actually lol.

I guess overall if I do get hit with a blizz very early on the way to council, I just use an couple extra teleport charges from ammy... it hasn't been enough of a problem frequently enough imo to justify fitting in a CNBF item.

What's probably more annoying than being slowed by blizzard is when you're still slowed after slaughtering council... walking slowly between different corpses while horking sucks.
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Dec 30 2021 08:25am
Quote (daanno2 @ 30 Dec 2021 08:55)
gotcha. and would you use an eth RM or save a socket with a non eth? just sold a perfect eth 5os one actually lol.

I guess overall if I do get hit with a blizz very early on the way to council, I just use an couple extra teleport charges from ammy... it hasn't been enough of a problem frequently enough imo to justify fitting in a CNBF item.

What's probably more annoying than being slowed by blizzard is when you're still slowed after slaughtering council... walking slowly between different corpses while horking sucks.


You don't feel the difference between having a Cham and not having one until you try it, even where you technically don't "need" it. It's a big QoL in many spots.
Cham that helmet or something; if you're running a DPS Barb, not having a source of Freeze prevention is silly imo

This post was edited by Exokek on Dec 30 2021 08:25am
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Dec 31 2021 03:23am
I LOVE this build. Not Zod(to complete my high rune holy grail) but ill take it

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Dec 31 2021 04:59am
Quote (xbankx1 @ Dec 31 2021 10:23am)
I LOVE this build. Not Zod(to complete my high rune holy grail) but ill take it

https://i.imgur.com/6XZGoSU.png


hehe, this build is working for me too :D





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Quote (IQLimited @ Dec 31 2021 02:59am)


I got Ohm and Ber today. lol Did you get those today as well?
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Quote (xbankx1 @ Dec 31 2021 12:00pm)
I got Ohm and Ber today. lol Did you get those today as well?


not today. that would be sick :D
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Dec 31 2021 05:05am
Ok enough with drop discussion, I dont know if anyone else had this happen but sometimes my amp damage doesnt cast unless i do it multiple times. Wondering if its getting canceled due to low FHR?
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