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Sep 18 2011 08:35pm
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I have a few questions about fools claws. Is it absolutely necessary to have a FC/GT with 20 ias? Let's say the best GT I could get had 20 ias, fools, only 100 ed, and no +skills. But let's say I could get my hands on a suwayahh for the same price but with 250+ ED, 20+ ias, and maybe venom. Would the maxed trap laying speed out perform this claw even though it won't hit nearly as hard?
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Sep 19 2011 02:47pm
Quote (Juicy_J @ 19 Sep 2011 21:43)
I have a few questions about fools claws. Is it absolutely necessary to have a FC/GT with 20 ias? Let's say the best GT I could get had 20 ias, fools, only 100 ed, and no +skills. But let's say I could get my hands on a suwayahh for the same price but with 250+ ED, 20+ ias, and maybe venom. Would the maxed trap laying speed out perform this claw even though it won't hit nearly as hard?


if you use suw/runic and wsm bug you don't need any claw ias (hl gives you 9 fpa)

dont use gts btw, way too weak

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Quote (Tails chao @ Sep 19 2011 04:47pm)
if you use suw/runic and wsm bug you don't need any claw ias (hl gives you 9 fpa)

dont use gts btw, way too weak


who needs physical damage when u can just bleed + venom them to death?
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Sep 19 2011 04:27pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ 19 Sep 2011 23:27)
who needs physical damage when u can just bleed + venom them to death?


nn, psychic hammer to death>
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Sep 19 2011 05:08pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sep 19 2011 10:27pm)
who needs physical damage when u can just bleed + venom them to death?


This is not far away from the answer, but I would suggest the following few things for the guy asking :
1) Use Chaos Suwayyah left hand. If its zodbuged it would be even more awesome. Other setups where you find some decent eth war fists are too rare to count (war fist eth and runic chaos I'm speaking of).
2) Against non blocking casters use some eth feral or runics (eth+300+ed+at least 1 Um in it) coupled with Suwayyah chaos mentioned. You don't need much to slaughter every non blocking bastard around (xcept BvC tbh). If they are max block you can still use this claw, or you can slow play it a little more with Fury (more OW).
3) Against High deffense chars use fools runics preferably eth and must have 1x Um rune. Vs paladins people say knockback is not that bad, but I might be missing why is knockback so gosu.
4) Vs hammerdins just use fools gt of whatever but with must 2x Ums. You will bleed them to death and that 25% of extra OW will come in handy of finishing that duel faster (they tend to jump in, get hit and then disappear where you can't exactly follow, but if OW are there you don't really care, do you). Unlike smitters that need to stay on your face, 25% will be sufficient vs them cause they tend to receive more hits.

Other combinations are probably ok, but remember physical damage is very good vs non blocking ones, decent vs blocking ones and not so great vs blocking and high defense ones.
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Sep 19 2011 06:00pm
Quote (monSt4r @ Sep 19 2011 07:08pm)
This is not far away from the answer, but I would suggest the following few things for the guy asking :
1) Use Chaos Suwayyah left hand. If its zodbuged it would be even more awesome. Other setups where you find some decent eth war fists are too rare to count (war fist eth and runic chaos I'm speaking of).
2) Against non blocking casters use some eth feral or runics (eth+300+ed+at least 1 Um in it) coupled with Suwayyah chaos mentioned. You don't need much to slaughter every non blocking bastard around (xcept BvC tbh). If they are max block you can still use this claw, or you can slow play it a little more with Fury (more OW).
3) Against High deffense chars use fools runics preferably eth and must have 1x Um rune. Vs paladins people say knockback is not that bad, but I might be missing why is knockback so gosu.
4) Vs hammerdins just use fools gt of whatever but with must 2x Ums. You will bleed them to death and that 25% of extra OW will come in handy of finishing that duel faster (they tend to jump in, get hit and then disappear where you can't exactly follow, but if OW are there you don't really care, do you). Unlike smitters that need to stay on your face, 25% will be sufficient vs them cause they tend to receive more hits.

Other combinations are probably ok, but remember physical damage is very good vs non blocking ones, decent vs blocking ones and not so great vs blocking and high defense ones.


u still want high damage vs hdins.... if they stomp u or u ww across their charge path, it will hurt as fuck w/ the right gear (which pressures them to play more offensively in order to "get you back" - which gets them fucked up even more)
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Sep 19 2011 06:14pm
Hard to hit even with all the damage in the world :P
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Sep 19 2011 06:18pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sep 20 2011 12:00am)
u still want high damage vs hdins.... if they stomp u or u ww across their charge path, it will hurt as fuck w/ the right gear (which pressures them to play more offensively in order to "get you back" - which gets them fucked up even more)


From experience I found that I loved my 50% claw better then my eth 150ed fools knockback zodumed (i know it's not something but hey, deal with what you've got). Although I used 50% cb a lot of times :\

Btw if they charge and you namelock tele and WW in their direction, will it hit them ? If yes, I still like 50% OW more...500+life is not to be messed with (with some venom with double time thing and perhaps some chaos hits) it will take only few hits to kill Hammer (having time for ow in mind :) ). Trick is to have 2 wofs under feet and some LS to see desynch and to mess with their heads (and to fhr tick of course). When you have those, you can move towards their side.

p.s. if they stomp you, it wont hurt that much to make 25% OW forgettable. Lets say claw has 150 more average damage. x5 for the modifier is 750 damage. Thats 125 pvp/2 = 60ish with max dr. x1.5 for deadly = 90 life per hit. And if they stomp they still have 20k deffense and 75% block. If you don't open wounds in that stomp you did nothing really.
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Sep 19 2011 08:39pm
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