no because warfists are slower than feral...

you don't understand how wsm bug works?
i still hit max trap speed with 30 ias war fist and 40 ias (from chaos) wrist sword

this is a better guide than most that are around, although the flaws are driving me nuts even tho they are mostly due to gear availability

theres like 4 wasted points there which would give you 1 more point for ls synergies and 3 more for claw mastery or blade shield, although i personally would go with the claw mastery since blade shield can be found on claws

and then theres the damage/speed issues

and then theres the matter of fhr preference, i personally prefer more fhr at all times, BUT sins do have sexy base fhr frames so your bps would work, so thats just a preference issue and can be forgiven

basically what im saying is you need new claws but other than that n1

have a nice day



RC = Base speed right claw (above the boots)
LC = Base speed left claw (above the gloves)
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(( [RC] + [LC] ) / 2 ) + ( [RC] - [LC] )

do the math

This post was edited by Bloop on Aug 10 2009 07:44pm

this made me lol so hard

My claw setup is quite a bit better IMO. Not only is it higher average damage, but the fools claw (the one that hits more often) has substantially higher average damage.

First off, chaos gives 35 IAS.
Second, secondary claw IAS doesn't count for trap laying speed, so your 30 IAS from your war fist is useless. Bringing that IAS up doesn't help your argument at all.
Third, fools claw only works on primary claw. Don't try to tell me it works for offhand too and it's just hidden, there were tests done by max (zeichiek) but I lost the video.

i dont believe you

i guess the only civilized solution is give me your claws and i will test them out and let you know



actually i do believe you i just want your claws bebe

This post was edited by Bloop on Aug 10 2009 07:45pm

The fools AR bonus does work offhand, and secondary claw IAS does count for trap laying speed. Yes, I made the typo of saying 40 ias instead of 35 ias, but it doesn't change the result.

No, secondary claw IAS does NOT count for trap laying speed. ANY sin can vouch me on that, it's so damn basic.

Ugh, I need to find the damn video again.

if that were the case, bui's claws don't hit max trap speed either