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16 antidote pots vs 350 arrows, antidote pots stack in duration idiot. plus with my max block only 1/4 of those arrows will hit
if i have a merc and you attempt to multi it(rofl) thatll use up even more arrows.

it is very easy to dodge a guided arrow and even a multi, its easy to dodge hammers if you walk around but
sometimes you get stuck on the person who teleported, and you dont even know it because its lag.
plus i can just lead hammer/make invis hammers everywhere, nobody said i have to tele on you to kill you.
even teleing on you would work, if your running south the whole time, when you stop to shoot thats my chance
so youll have to keep running and running

and about that "zons dont flinch" thing, thats 100% bullcrap, zons DO flinch, every character flinches
dodge lock isnt what im talking about, although that does kind of the same thing

This post was edited by CheeseOfDoom on Dec 12 2008 08:00pm
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Dec 12 2008 08:32pm
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16 antidote pots vs 350 arrows, antidote pots stack in duration idiot. plus with my max block only 1/4 of those arrows will hit
if i have a merc and you attempt to multi it(rofl) thatll use up even more arrows.

it is very easy to dodge a guided arrow and even a multi, its easy to dodge hammers if you walk around but
sometimes you get stuck on the person who teleported, and you dont even know it because its lag.
plus i can just lead hammer/make invis hammers everywhere, nobody said i have to tele on you to kill you.
even teleing on you would work, if your running south the whole time, when you stop to shoot thats my chance
so youll have to keep running and running

and about that "zons dont flinch" thing, thats 100% bullcrap, zons DO flinch, every character flinches
dodge lock isnt what im talking about, although that does kind of the same thing


I would really love to see u do all that u said against my zon with ur hammer. Hit me up for a 1v1. Ill let u use merc since that seems to be one of ur only ways to killing a zon.
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Dec 12 2008 10:49pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Fri, Dec 12 2008, 09:32pm)
I would really love to see u do all that u said against my zon with ur hammer. Hit me up for a 1v1. Ill let u use merc since that seems to be one of ur only ways to killing a zon.


He plays uswest, which explains his hdin owning these zons.
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Dec 12 2008 11:33pm
you really think its that hard to dodge a hammer? any zon on west could use the same strategy, but no matter what you would do, you would do relatively no dmg and you would eventually get hit. a real zon with a build that isnt easy to counter like yours could beat me.
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Good guide, you clearly know what your talking about and even made a zon's valk useful vs some chars tongue.gif

To make the long story short, I love your guide.
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you really think its that hard to dodge a hammer? any zon on west could use the same strategy, but no matter what you would do, you would do relatively no dmg and you would eventually get hit. a real zon with a build that isnt easy to counter like yours could beat me.


A hammerdin will almost never hit me, i can guarantee that. There are no manuevers u can do to hit me almost at all. I have a better chance of running into a random invis hammer u casted 10 seconds prior than u landing a succuessful telestomp hit on me. Even in the case u do hit me, i will still be alive, and in some cases I've tanked 2 hammers on my zon while still being alive.

Also with mb and max dr with 4k+ life, ur going to live longer than a normal hdin, but u still wont live through the duel. You dont think ive faced pals with max dr and max block? Ive beaten hammers easily with that. Ive even beaten smiters with mb and max dr, a hammer would be probably the easier char for my zon to face. Ive also taken on 2-3 at the same time in 4v4's when my team around me has died.
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Skill is it, thats what he kills you with. Ive outmanueverd mass tele chars like ww barbs and sorc's with 60 frw on my zon, u dont need a full advantage to beat someone.

If u need to 100% bm to kill his char, then it proves 100% that you suck and dont have the capability of doing it on ur own. Get good.


Lol you have 60 FRW on your zon and no teleport? You really, REALLY have to stop running your mouth.



Lol just because your responses entertain me. Explain your way out of this:

I have a fury/rabies druid who cranks out 55-60k poison dmg along with -75 enemy resistance in a single bite. He has more FRW than you (by a large margin), 7k unboed life, max DR and a 4 frame 3 range attack. Explain to me how you have any chance at beating this character? I kill you in one bite:

10k PSN dmg after PvP penatly with -75res = dead zon. Go ahead. Talk shit.


This post was edited by edgie on Dec 13 2008 02:58am
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Lol you have 60 FRW on your zon and no teleport? You really, REALLY have to stop running your mouth.



Lol just because your responses entertain me. Explain your way out of this:

I have a fury/rabies druid who cranks out 55-60k poison dmg along with -75 enemy resistance in a single bite. He has more FRW than you (by a large margin), 7k unboed life, max DR and a 4 frame 3 range attack. Explain to me how you have any chance at beating this character? I kill you in one bite:

10k PSN dmg after PvP penatly with -75res = dead zon. Go ahead. Talk shit.


well put edgie. and godly druid that is there smile.gif
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Quote (BigBird13512 @ Sat, Dec 13 2008, 04:02am)
well put edgie. and godly druid that is there smile.gif


Thanks smile.gif I love dueling with shifters. And I'll say it before anybody moans: my fury is 4 frame my rabies is actually 5 tongue.gif

This post was edited by edgie on Dec 13 2008 03:08am
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Dec 13 2008 03:10am
? zon is complete shit compared to hdin in bm holy

if we're using mercs then it's obviously bm
marrowwalks + merc > zon
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