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Dec 23 2021 08:10am
Quote (Exokek @ 23 Dec 2021 15:06)
i would definitely ugprade from glad bane. that's BY FAR the best upgrade from here.


Thanks, i guess survivability is key with the all res and extra dmg on forti then. Won't the +resis on forti even out against the dmg red and mdmg red on glad bane (at least on hydra's)? Or is forti that much beter defensively?
Will upgrading the ariocs to botd warpike have much effect afterwards? (more dmg and life leech?).
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Dec 23 2021 08:12am
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Thanks, i guess survivability is key with the all res and extra dmg on forti then. Won't the +resis on forti even out against the dmg red and mdmg red on glad bane (at least on hydra's)? Or is forti that much beter defensively?
Will upgrading the ariocs to botd warpike have much effect afterwards? (more dmg and life leech?).


Fort is better defensively and is waaaaaay better offensively, too. Glad's Bane & Duriel's are big time temporary.
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Dec 23 2021 08:13am
Quote (Exokek @ 23 Dec 2021 15:12)
Fort is better defensively and is waaaaaay better offensively, too. Glad's Bane & Duriel's are big time temporary.


Okay thanks! :) I guess i'll be making 2 forti's from the fg then. One for merc and one for myself on frenzy barb!
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Dec 23 2021 01:01pm
I was trying a new build based on botd giant thresher(its about half the price of an war pike botd ).

Gface with 15 ias/ damaage to demon
eth fort
botd GT

this build actually feels really smooth

hits 75 ias breakpoint

just feels really good 40-50 runs in atm
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Quote (xbankx1 @ 23 Dec 2021 14:01)
I was trying a new build based on botd giant thresher(its about half the price of an war pike botd ).

Gface with 15 ias/ damaage to demon
eth fort
botd GT

this build actually feels really smooth

hits 75 ias breakpoint

just feels really good 40-50 runs in atm


Yeah I ran a GT for a while. It's alright; feels a bit softer on the hits compared to WP and Arioc's, but the life leech is 10/10
It should work perfectly fine tbh
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Quote (Exokek @ Dec 15 2021 05:24pm)
Yep!
Basically comes down to being a lot more "aware". This entire build is predicated on the idea that you're paying attention to where you & your Merc are, and what the Auras are, etc.
I'm glad you found better success after more time with the build.

The "time to 10 mil" varies now based on the in-game timer, but with GG gear you're looking at 20-22 minutes with a 60s timer. That assumes you just pick up & stash without IDing on the spot, mostly.
Without GG gear you should be able to get that done in 30 minutes if the timer is 60s? That's 90s per run, including repairs/stashing, etc.

If the timer is 90s, everyone ends up very, very sad, but you can run more Goldfind on the Merc then, with a slower kill speed.

Loading times are a pain in the ass for some people; what I've found is that uncapping my FPS helped with loading, lowering settings as well, and you can "pre-walk" during Loading. Your character for instance upon a fresh game can walk towards the waypoint, and you can normally walk a bit in Travincal while you're loading there, etc. I sometimes even Teleport not even seeing the screen, and I'll be halfway to Trav already :rofl:


Ok so.. I ended up really enjoying this build and decided to go all out - got ebotd wp and fort for my merc. But I wanted to ask about those times to 10 mill. Lets say 22 mins per 10 mill - that means roughly 500k profit per run assuming you always hit the 60 sec mark. 500k profit is ~600k per run since tele charges+ enchant + gavel charges is roughly 70k per run? My pc is slow so my load times that i've timed (create game -> wp trav ->tp act 3 -> wp act4) are ~30 sec. So I guess a good pc gets maybe 15 secs on those? Can you really average a 45 sec run without load times? I'm pretty sure I've smoothed out inconsistencies and figured out exactly how to amp dmg , hork while enemies are stunned, collect gold and look out for desirable items on ground etc but still a 45 sec average run including everything seems quite fast. It might only happen on my fastest runs. Also I'm averaging ~450k including expenses at best from my notes until now (2050 gf%). Am I missing something?
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Quote (PappousElf @ 24 Dec 2021 22:21)
Ok so.. I ended up really enjoying this build and decided to go all out - got ebotd wp and fort for my merc. But I wanted to ask about those times to 10 mill. Lets say 22 mins per 10 mill - that means roughly 500k profit per run assuming you always hit the 60 sec mark. 500k profit is ~600k per run since tele charges+ enchant + gavel charges is roughly 70k per run? My pc is slow so my load times that i've timed (create game -> wp trav ->tp act 3 -> wp act4) are ~30 sec. So I guess a good pc gets maybe 15 secs on those? Can you really average a 45 sec run without load times? I'm pretty sure I've smoothed out inconsistencies and figured out exactly how to amp dmg , hork while enemies are stunned, collect gold and look out for desirable items on ground etc but still a 45 sec average run including everything seems quite fast. It might only happen on my fastest runs. Also I'm averaging ~450k including expenses at best from my notes until now (2050 gf%). Am I missing something?


I'm not sure, really. Loading times surely play a big role, as I've had people tell me they CANNOT hit under a minute no matter what. Their Trav clear will be super fast, but load times alone will put them above 1min15~ or so.
Uncapping your FPS might help load times, lowering settings, etc.

But yeah, that's for sure going to vary. 22 mins isn't going to be on 30 seconds of load times per run.
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Dec 26 2021 07:02am
That timer going down to 30-40s has been so damn good
Just did a full goldcap in 16 minutes, using an eBOTD GT/Andariel's Visage/CoH setup.

:cry: It's beautiful

This post was edited by Exokek on Dec 26 2021 07:02am
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Dec 26 2021 12:16pm
Quote (Exokek @ Dec 26 2021 05:02am)
That timer going down to 30-40s has been so damn good
Just did a full goldcap in 16 minutes, using an eBOTD GT/Andariel's Visage/CoH setup.

:cry: It's beautiful


:O, nice i really enjoyed the gt variant. I think it's just so smooth compared to warpike because of higher attack speed. Doesn't overkill and less of those the first hit deals half the super unique hp cause you get a good damage roll then then take 5-6 more hits cause you get the lower end of damage roll.
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Dec 27 2021 08:05am
Quote (Exokek @ 23 Dec 2021 15:12)
Fort is better defensively and is waaaaaay better offensively, too. Glad's Bane & Duriel's are big time temporary.


So, fort is definitely better especially offensively. I'm really enjoying the gameplay and selling gold and gamble packs. And of course gambling myself.
Now i want the next upgrade. Is it good to change eth ariocs 4skills/226ed (amn) for ebotd warpike? Rest of setup is eth andy's (ral) and eth forti GH.
I guess eth warpike has more dmg and leech. But it also is slower (which results in less leech and dmg) and has no ignore target defense and deadly strike. Is it worth to buy ebotd you think? I can trade the arioc's to get some value but they only go for like 50 fg.
Let me know! :)

This post was edited by victim87 on Dec 27 2021 08:06am
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