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Oct 19 2012 04:35pm
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Oct 20 2012 06:26am
Quote (TSBoyer @ 18 Oct 2012 18:19)
About Faith of Ice bows:
Posting this so I never have to write this up again



Faith Of Ice is deception


Diamond Faith requires 65% IAS, which is easily achieved with: Rare Diadem 30%, Cat's Eye 20%, Knockback Gloves 20%
+20% IAS from Faith of Ice Diamond would do absolutely nothing to improve your setup here as these are the items you would want to wear anyway, regardless of a 20% IAS bonus from the bow
Also, Faith of Ice does not give as much Enhanced Damage % to the actual weapon damage as standard Faith bows, which = bad
Most people think that the 20% deadly strike is a superior gain in damage over a standard Faith bow and this is wrong, I'll explain why at the bottom of this post

GMB Faith requires 92% IAS, which is easily achieved with: 45%/120, Cat's Eye 20%, Knockback Gloves 20%, Nosferatu's 10%
Again, the +20% IAS from Faith of Ice does nothing to help this setup
At first glance it would seem obvious to wear Faith of Ice, gain 20% IAS and ditch Nosferatu's and wear a Dungo for more life/DR%
But due to the significantly lower whole number damage on a Faith of Ice and the 20% Deadly Strike barely doing anything to help your damage output, you will be dealing significantly lower damage than even a standard Diamond Bow Faith
Long story short, if you are trying to benefit from the Faith of Ice GMB's 20% IAS, you'd be better off just using a Diamond Faith to begin with



I'll explain why the 20% Deadly Strike is doing nothing to help your Bowa and how Critical/Deadly work together:

Bowazons commonly add base 20 points in to Critical Strike (If you don't do this, you aren't building your Bowa correctly)
Bowazons easily reach 70% to 73% Critical Strike with +skill items to begin with
Considering an Amazon has a base Critical of 70% and let's say she is wearing Faith of Ice for 20% Deadly, here is how the game runs Critical/Deadly:
* You fire Guided Arrow, it hits
* The game first attempts to roll Critical Strike 70%, if it works and deals double damage, the Deadly Strike does nothing else
* If Critical Strike misses, the game then attempts to roll Deadly Strike 20% (after the Critical has already been attempted)
((There is no quadruple damage, Crit/Deadly does not work at the same time, ever))

So essentially, with a 70% Critical ~ 7/10 Guided arrows are dealing double damage or 70% of the time you are dealing double damage
This means that only 3/10 hits or 30% of the time, your Deadly Strike is doing anything at all and when it does, it is only a 2/10 chance (If Crit misses) For the Deadly to work at all
All in all, you are gaining much more damage output by just plain having higher weapon damage to begin with

Even if you were wearing Faith of Ice, Highlord's and Gore Rider (which is even further loss of whole number damage)
You would still be dealing 7/10 Crits
Missing crits 3/10 shots
and then 3/10 shots only having a 6/10 chance to save that double damage
But this setup lowers your whole number damage, fast run walk, +STR and life = Not worth it



Faith of Ice is pure deception, worthless and entirely over-priced


faith db + dungo + cats+ 2ama 30frw 60life 20@ 80ed 30ias 20dext vs FoI gmb + bb + hl0.8 +30/120/45

I have already showed you that gmb totally rape your db
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Oct 20 2012 06:40am
Quote (thurim666 @ Oct 20 2012 07:26am)
faith db + dungo + cats+ 2ama 30frw 60life 20@ 80ed 30ias 20dext vs FoI gmb + bb + hl0.8 +30/120/45

I have already showed you that gmb totally rape your db


But FoI is just so shitty, nd the prIce you pay for it is just O.o

Over all ( and were looking at the big picture here ) full vita w/ mb db/sb >
We prefer to make a balanced very well rounded character, over a totally lop sidded all ias / dmg build
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Oct 20 2012 06:45am
TIL you always use a rare circlet so you don't need on-weapon ias.

Stop.
Posting.
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Oct 20 2012 08:30am
Quote (thurim666 @ Oct 20 2012 08:26am)
faith db + dungo + cats+ 2ama 30frw 60life 20@ 80ed 30ias 20dext vs FoI gmb + bb + hl0.8 +30/120/45

I have already showed you that gmb totally rape your db


THERE IS NO BUGGED SIGGARD'S STEALTH BELT ON EAST/WEST/ASIA


If you had actually read this guide at all
You'd clearly see on page #1 that I suggest using GMB and Bugged Belt if you are on Europe Server
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Oct 21 2012 03:54pm
Quote (Airwaves @ Oct 20 2012 08:45am)
TIL you always use a rare circlet so you don't need on-weapon ias.

Stop.
Posting.



You haven't played this game in 7 years


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Oct 21 2012 03:58pm
Quote (TSBoyer @ Oct 21 2012 09:54pm)
You haven't played this game in 7 years


http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g420/Habakkuk222/d2jsp/Trolling%20Ammo/Airwaves.png


busted :ph34r:
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Oct 25 2012 10:46am
to the top
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Oct 25 2012 01:07pm
Awsome guide,
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Oct 28 2012 11:40am
Here is this ZvA Build clearing Chaos Sanctuary
Started with 6 players, down to 4 at Diablo Spawn
(Would have done 8 player for this but no games were full at the time)

Shows that even during PvM, a Diamond Faith Vitazon certainly doesn't lack damage


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