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Jun 4 2021 08:17am
Its due to the fact that
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 4 2021 03:53pm)
Supplement 5 - Damage calculation on a Level 95 Barb
I try to calculate the entire dmg of grief build, possible will make some mistake, plz lmk know.

Char info:
Level 95 Barbarian
Level 26 Sword Masteries after BO,
6/6/6 wolfhowl + (highlord +1 skill) + (Anni +1 skill) + (Battle Command +1 skill), so werewolf & Feral Rage lvl are both 9>
life after BO and werewolf: 5075 life
dex = 136,
Strength = 475 (from gears & point-addition)

1. Weapon
Grief
roll: +400 dmg
base: +15%ed Phase Blade
min base dmg = 1.15 x 31 = 35.65
max base dmg = 1.15 x 35 = 40.25
wp dmg = 435.65 ~ 440.25


2. Dmg from charms & gears
Jewel on Wolfhowl: 30max
9x"14-76 GC": 9 x 14=126max
10x"4-20 sc": 10 x 4=40max
<didn't put 451 psn sc for this calculation>
dmg from charms & gears = 30+126+40=196


now, max dmg from wp & jewel & sockets = 440.25+196=636.25max

Skill ed%
Feral Rage: 90%ed
Sword mastery: 153%ed
Skill ed% = 90%ed+183%ed=243%ed

Gears ed%
Fort: 300%ed
Steelrend: 60%ed
Gear ed% = 360%

Str ed%
Str ed% = 475% (per point per %ed)


Aura ed%
Level 23 Might (Cap is 20 for lvl95 merc, but Battle Command +1, eAndy+2, = 23): 260%ed
Level 20 Pride (I never use pride cuz I dont like switch form but for calculation here): 345%ed
Aura ed% = 605%ed

ed% from skill & gear & str & aura = 243+360+475+605 = 1683%


Min overall dmg = 440.25 x (1683% + 100% modifier) = 7,849.6575
Min overall dmg = 636.25 x (1683% + 100% modifier) = 11,344.3375

Deadly Strike
Grief: 20%DS
Gore: 15%DS
Amulet: 35%DS (char lvl is 95)
DS% = 70% total

CS
Sword mastery: 31%CS

Like D2 wiki-like websites said DS & CS don't stack with each other, but if one of them triggered (DS 70 is not very low), then:


15,699.315~22,688.675, 15.7k ~ 22.69k?

Other unrelated things:
3F = 6.25 attack per sec
4F = 8.33 attack per sec
Atma's dmg AMP (I normally only use atma instead of HL): 200%


I highly possible made some mistake, haven't done any grief dmg calculate b4, not sure if I should calc ed from aura, gear, str, soc, charms in this way, lmk


DS * (1-(cs/100)) + cs = ur chance to deal double.

3frame = 8,33
4frame = 6,25
(25/frame = attacks pr sec)

((All min + all max) / 2+400) * (1+((strbonus+edbonus+skillbonus+aurabonus) /100))
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Jun 4 2021 08:25am
ok, let me try one more time use gel87's formula:

all min = 35.65
all max = 196+40.25=236.25
strbonus+edbonus+skillbonus+aurabonus = 475% + 360% + 243% + 605% = 1,683%

AVG-DMG:
[(35.65 + 236.25) / 2 + 400] x {1 + [(1,683%) / 100%]}
= 535.95 x 17.83
= 9555.9885
= 9.555k

and based on another formula gel87 provide:
chance to deal double = 70 x [1-(31/100)] + 31 = 79.3%
wow for me that double %% is high enough,
9.555k average x 2 = 19.11k

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 4 2021 08:36am
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Jun 4 2021 08:29am
Outstanding format, easy to read. Gel’s got the fixes for you. It’s :thumbsup:
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Jun 4 2021 08:48am
Quote (cantero @ Jun 4 2021 06:47am)
How many str in wolfhowl?


I'm using hero editor for testing so it's a perfect one, 15 I think.

To get a lower strength amount for Edeath CB and CS I did use a Hel rune in one of the wolfhowls.

This post was edited by Dr_Lecter on Jun 4 2021 09:02am
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Jun 4 2021 09:01am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 4 2021 06:56am)
Hey man, are u good at any dmg calculate stuffs? could u help me see if i made any mistake in Supplement 5.
And different environment test result is different, I mean when I tested on Single player with Eth Death CB + glitch PB, only 1st hit works, but
when I tested it on Bnet, it works good, idk


Gel87's calculations look accurate and so do yours on that second post and from my testing with a max vita Wolfbarb and 60 damage from charms, I estimated approximately 13k a hit (averaged out the deadly strike percentage) although I use Atma's Scarab and Pride so I just slap physical immunes until it procs. The build plays like a tankier Fury druid because of maxed out Shout and Iron Skin for that juicy 20k defense, 40% life leech on the attack and solid FRW thanks to feral rage and increased speed. It hits like a frenzy barb but I can basically just hold right click and tank 8 player Lord de Seis and his butt buddies all day. The pride might merc is useful but not necessary like it is for other melee builds in 8 players Hell because of the huge life leech on this build.

If you're averaging 13k a hit at 6.25 attacks per second that's 81k DPS. When amp damage procs he just deletes monsters off the screen, Diablo included. My wolfbarb only has 8k defense at level 87 so the hit chance could certainly be improved.

edited for typos.

This post was edited by Dr_Lecter on Jun 4 2021 09:08am
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Quote (Dr_Lecter @ Jun 4 2021 08:01am)
Gel87's calculations look accurate and from my testing with a max vita Wolfbarb and 60 damage from charms, I estimated approximately 13k a hit (averaged out the deadly strike percentage) although I use Atma's Wail and Pride so I just slap physical immunes until it procs. The build plays like a tankier Fury druid because of maxed out Shout and Iron Skin for that juicy 20k defense, 40% life leech on the attack and solid FRW thanks to feral rage and increased speed. It hits like a frenzy barb but I can basically just hold right click and tank 8 player Lord de Seis and his butt buddies all day. The pride might merc is useful but not necessary like it is for other melee builds in 8 players Hell because of the huge life leech on this build.


yes I used his formula and got more precise result i think, the DS CS is what im looking for.
I just finished my first Druid on US east nl, Fury druid, now leveled to lvl91, changed wp from eGP BOTD to eth Tomb Reaver (zod+2x35ed-15jewel), honestly, I'm a little bit disappointed about its pvm experience, too dry.

yes this build actually can almost be finished when char level = wolfhowl required level :lol:
even a +1 dex -require junk rare jewel for crafting would do the core work

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 4 2021 09:10am
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Jun 4 2021 09:13am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 4 2021 08:08am)
yes I used his formula and got more precise result i think, the DS CS is what im looking for.
I just finished my first Druid on US east nl, Fury druid, now leveled to lvl91, changed wp from eGP BOTD to eth Tomb Reaver (zod+2x35ed-15jewel), honestly, I'm a little bit disappointed about its pvm experience, too dry.


Right, I made a fury druid a ladder or two ago and while the damage was good, I had somewhat good gear (eth zodded Tomb reaver with IAS/damage jewels, fort, etc) and still could not do Uber Tristram. Over reliance on huge life pool and faster hit recovery with no bonuses to defense, block or damage reduction made the build squishier than I expected. The wolfbarb on the other hand can tank 30 physical immune frenzytaurs on players 8 hell until amp procs.
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Jun 4 2021 09:49am
If anybody got shareable "Fine Small Charm of Craftmanship" 4max-20ar & "Sharp Grand Charm of Maiming" 14max-76ar for single player testing, lmk
i only got 10-76-45 file, and tried HeroEditor millions of times, every time it crash hard, gave up
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Jun 4 2021 10:19am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 4 2021 11:49pm)
If anybody got shareable "Fine Small Charm of Craftmanship" 4max-20ar & "Sharp Grand Charm of Maiming" 14max-76ar for single player testing, lmk
i only got 10-76-45 file, and tried HeroEditor millions of times, every time it crash hard, gave up



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Jun 4 2021 10:31am
so... is Barb the better physical wolf?
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