this variations should be tested face to face

probably - yes, grief offers higher dmg output

but... the only problematical monster in the game is baal for me (spending around 20 secs to kill him, due to lack of cb)
i dont see any problems with other mobs, thats why i dont wanna switch back to phys dmg weapons

ok, lets say:

if your dreamer use fanta as main aura then grief is better
if conva - azure (or other funny options like gimmershred or famine )

e: can u calculate approx. bonus from grief*ed with eni setup?

This post was edited by kronosHardcore on May 1 2017 07:26am

is 9. setup will be good at pvm?

All of the setups works just fine.
Perhaps its even the best one there for regular pvm



Lets assume youre lvl 95. Eni adds 95*0.75 = 71 strenght which is 71% ed

A grief pb 400 damage does 431-435 damage (31-35 base)

You have 20 pts in sacrifice, adding 12% dmg per point, is 12*20 = 240% ed

Lets assume you have 15 in zeal after +skills, 15 pts zeal is 66% ed

240+71+66 = 377% ed

Min dmg: 431/100*377 = 1624.87 (1624)
Max dmg: 435/100*377 = 1639.95 (1639)

So end dmg from eni str+skills on grief pb is: 1624-1639.

(End dmg would be slightly higher cuz u put some stats in strenght, which I didnt count)

E; I could compare it but I am barely at pc thus I cant do further tests atm )

E2; With fanaticism the dmg would be higher too, as well might from merc

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on May 3 2017 11:49am

ok, ty for ur time

numbers looks good, especially when we will take 2 auras in count

up!

Stickied



This is actually pretty interested ye! Famine atleast
Will test that one of these next days as well
Destruction is also cool, muchos ctc's xD (as well some magic dmg )

E:
Famine works good! Only downfall is that its breakable (Can only be made in hammers and axes).

Here some things I tested:
Skills are the same as usual.
max res light, salv, sacrifice
27 conviction
1 hs
1 redemption
rest zeal

Gear:
Famine (Made mine in Legendary mallet, because the big damage! (and good avg)
Enigma
Dream ST 65 res
Dream Diadem 20 res
arachs
loh
Raven+dual leech ring with all res, str and ar
Gores
hlords (the ias u probs need anyway)

Inv:
perf anni+torch
5 pc skillers 45 life
6 36 ar/20 life scs

Zeal damage: 1941-9869 (The ele dmg is rly nice as u said ^^)
Zeal attack Rating: 4.9k
Defense: 8559
Stamina: 1057
Life: 3407
Mana: 557 (701 mana on tele switch)
60 fhr
20 fcr main hand, 55 fcr cta/spirit hand
17 ll, 5 ml
70 total ias
145 mf (lol)
10 ow, 15 cb and 50 DS

8 Dr%
216 fire res, 185 cold res, 201 light res and 166 psn res
20% cold sorb
10% Maximum Lightning resist

Stats looks nice, and it works nice.


This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Jul 1 2017 03:34pm

another fun option for the convict builds is eth baranars, solid mix od damages, 50 ias and 200% ar bonus is quite nice

maybe try Gtoe rather than gores for bosses, and or craft cb gloves. should help get the kill speed up

One question for max dream aura damage could this work? I want to do a dreamer but im unsure.

Your setup but with a 6x light RBF on phaseblade (use holy shock)
and conviction on merc

About gores vs Gobs: Ye. Gobs is better vs bosses. but lacks FRW.



Ye. afaik Facets do work. But a 6sox facetted weapon means rly rly rly poor phys dmg. With azure/famine etc. you still have some phys dmg, as well other ele dmg (fire, cold, magic)

This post was edited by Klaasje123 on Jul 2 2017 05:05am

My last dream zealer hit for 11-13k.

death ettin
highlords
dual dreams
fort
arachs
bk
ravens
dracs
gores

inv was tons of 3/life/ar(or other variations), lifer scs and anything else i found that i needed like max/ar etc etc.

max zeal, sacrifice, resist lightning and fanat. rest i put into blessed aim, salvation doesn't add enough to warrant using it imo. with fanat maxed you get max ias or the bp right before it with ettin axe and you hit hard. I couldn't solo ubers but i never died to them however i had a smiter for them anyways. I used him for baal/chaos walks.