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Jan 22 2013 07:24pm
Quote (Razor @ Jan 22 2013 07:15am)
Ofc they are not unbeatable but is the possibility of killing a hdin in like 1 out of 10 duels reasonable to give it a 3-3.5 / 5 rating instead of 4.5-4.99 / 5 (what it should be) ?



North smite - it counters the stomps, yes. But what if the hdin is clever and doesn't tele stomp 24/7 ? What if he teleports in your blind spot or simply boxes you waiting for the stomp chance when you need to get out of the hammer fields ?
Foh lock - I don't exactly know what you mean here. Either you mean holding down the mouse and foh him 48365 times which is pretty much useless since it's ~140+ dmg each hit for a stacked 80/20 hdin who can easily catch you at a foh and either get you down to half of your life or kill you instantly.
Or you mean to foh-stomp a hdin...yeah..foh-stomp a hdin, brilliant idea...
Break their synch - synch hdins = rand hdins so if you are seriously taking those into count well, then it's all talking for iteself.




Quote (Ashwin @ Jan 22 2013 01:05pm)
1. FOH'ing on switch
2. Phoenix shield is a bad choice
3. Treks/infernos are bad choices
4. Lawbringer should not even be an option
5. I already elaborated on which dueling strategies you got wrong
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New conclusion: Just going to quote and state those whom didn't read the guide. These kind of people do a great job of incriminating themselves.

This post was edited by Nunchakulee321 on Jan 22 2013 07:26pm
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Jan 23 2013 03:07am
whatever, your guide is bad, your skills also xDD never seen such a noob ass duelling vs dudy (you should win 99% duel easy mode)

gear / builds & strategies are shit for the most, why don't you just give up and admit you failed here ^^?

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Jan 23 2013 03:38am
Quote (TSBoyer @ Jan 20 2013 10:10am)


In fact, it was my way of inviting you to hang with a higher teir pvp crowd and do a few team pvps with us so that you could learn a thing or two
But w/e

~ Have fun


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Jan 23 2013 10:29am
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 23 2013 02:24am)
New conclusion: Just going to quote and state those whom didn't read the guide. These kind of people do a great job of incriminating themselves.


You're right, I didn't read through all the stuff because I didn't even want to do that after I saw the phoenix shield suggestion and the hdins 3-3.5 rating in the duel strategies.
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Jan 23 2013 12:39pm
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 22 2013 08:24pm)
New conclusion: Just going to quote and state those whom didn't read the guide. These kind of people do a great job of incriminating themselves.


Since you seem dumber than the usual level of dumb, and are unable to comprehend your own guide, here are excerpts from your guide, which I was referring to:

1. FOH'ing on switch
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 16 2013 01:03am)
You get conviction with your foh stick and won't need to foh with conv on smite side, foh is only used there to fohlock. This saves us 3 points for smite from conv itself and the two prerequisites.


2. Phoenix shield
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 16 2013 01:03am)
Phoenix Sacred Targe Knights mod:
465% Enhanced damage, 121 Attack rating, 399 defense vs missile, 50 to life, +5% max lightning res, +10% max fire res, 21 fire absorb, -28 fire resistances, 40% chance to cast lvl 22 firestorm.
This will be your go to shield for fighting barbs, ww sins, melee druids, and purebrid smiters. It has the downfall of the 40% chance to proc firestorm but will add 34% more damage when you do hit. This shield is optional but I found it to be irreplacable for fighting purebrid smiters.


3. Treks/Infernos
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 16 2013 01:03am)
Eth or Regular Sandstorm Treks:
20% frw, 20%fhr, 15 vitality, 15 strength, 70 poison res, great defense.
People don't find poison res to be that important but if you think about it, it really is. Use these for fighting poison necros, plaguezons, and rabbies druids.

Infernostrides:
10% max fire res, 20% frw.
Use these for legit stack vs a fire sorc. I know many consider "one piece" to be gm thus making spurs available. But I choose to be gm as possible. Do what you will.


4. Lawbringer
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 16 2013 01:03am)
Lawbringer:
20% chance to cast lvl 15 decrepify on striking, 159-210 fire damage, 130-180 cold damage, 7 life leech, 250 defense vs missile, 10 dexterity.
I found this to be effective in smite vs smite as good as or nearly as good as grief. That is, when the decrep procced. Lowers their DR by 50%, slows them by 50%, reduces their damage by 50%. Making them 75% less effective and you 50% more. But you lose the 400 dmg on grief.

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Jan 23 2013 12:51pm
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 22 2013 03:31am)

Stereotypical bandwagoner. In no circumstance are they unbeatable on this t/v build. Provided you know how to north smite, fohlock, and break their synch, it is actually quite more simplified. If it was by skillset vs skillset for everyone individually, like everybody seems to think. . . then all the ratings would be 1-5/5 for everything. I'm sure you and everyone else complaining would learn at least one new thing or two if they gave my guide the time of day.


I don't know where you play (prolly american), but you should stop pubs, seems like you duelled only weak hdins.

At high level, lets say you are the best smiter and you have to duel the best hdin (from Europe point of view, americans hdins are trash sry), maybe you could kill him 1-2times in a ft5 but no more.

e: Diablo II - US West Ladder hehe.. yes ladder+west you sure know what "good hdin" is.
Just read the post above and Lol@foh swith (used to taunt barb i guess :-DD.. nvm joking), proving you are totaly clueless and your opponents are unskilled pubdins nothing else.
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Jan 23 2013 07:26pm
Well since you didnt do the maths i did that for you with some stats i just can guess ... but you are wrong man.
its not even 5%

the point is your pala seems to be only lvl 93 ... you should lvl it up.

your arguments why u use HS are nice but the def diffence doesnt really matter ... you have easily over 15k def and there are just 2 real enemys which counts on this (barb and charg of another smite)
both isnt an agument for loosing dmg. if oyu want to increase your defens just take exil ... everything else is kind of useless.

i dont understand why you try to use a foh stick ... you gonna be food if you try to switch. and you loose one of the nicest dmg bosters which only costs you 3 points ...
you can cary a foh stick in stash including a full foh setup but to give up that much dmg just because of 3 points is like your enemy rating just a joke!

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Jan 24 2013 02:53am
Lol, mad.
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Jan 24 2013 02:54am
Quote (Nunchakulee321 @ Jan 24 2013 08:53am)
Lol, mad.


i think you are, erase that 'guide' asap dude
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Quote (Team_ifu @ Jan 23 2013 01:07am)
whatever, your guide is bad, your skills also xDD never seen such a noob ass duelling vs dudy (you should win 99% duel easy mode)

gear / builds & strategies are shit for the most, why don't you just give up and admit you failed here ^^?


Quote (Razor @ Jan 23 2013 08:29am)
You're right, I didn't read through all the stuff because I didn't even want to do that after I saw the phoenix shield suggestion and the hdins 3-3.5 rating in the duel strategies.


Quote (Ashwin @ Jan 23 2013 10:39am)
Since you seem dumber than the usual level of dumb, and are unable to comprehend your own guide, here are excerpts from your guide, which I was referring to:

1. FOH'ing on switch


2. Phoenix shield


3. Treks/Infernos


4. Lawbringer


Quote (Ersatzkeks @ Jan 23 2013 05:26pm)
Well since you didnt do the maths i did that for you with some stats i just can guess ... but you are wrong man.
its not even 5%

the point is your pala seems to be only lvl 93 ... you should lvl it up.

your arguments why u use HS are nice but the def diffence doesnt really matter ... you have easily over 15k def and there are just 2 real enemys which counts on this (barb and charg of another smite)
both isnt an agument for loosing dmg. if oyu want to increase your defens just take exil ... everything else is kind of useless.

i dont understand why you try to use a foh stick ... you gonna be food if you try to switch. and you loose one of the nicest dmg bosters which only costs you 3 points ...
you can cary a foh stick in stash including a full foh setup but to give up that much dmg just because of 3 points is like your enemy rating just a joke!


Lol, mad?
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