Yea, I don't think you should use a smiter to replace your hammerdin.
It's a nice support char in PVM and awsome for the Bosses ans Ubers but slow against groups of minions... esp in 8ppl games.
Also, you're right about being owned in A4.

My next char is going to be a FoH/Smite pally...
I have all three armours now: Coh, Nigma, and Fort ... have yet to use the Fort because of I need str bonuses.

Yep, a pure smiter is very verstile indeed. I'll have to see how verstile a FoH/Smite is.

Oh, and Konieczny ... I'll message you in a the game sometime ... just at a random time when I'm geared up and ready.
I'd like to try your barb.
If you're like this other zerker barb I fought, I won't win. I use a phase but I'd like to practice and than pubs will be ever easier...
I've beaten many mediorce pub barbs ... only a few have given me a run for my money ... but to be honest, I try to avoid any barb...
I let em come to me.
Also, I'll wait until this lag passes ... has been pretty bad the last couple days.

no matter of wapon U use , ba wnt help either since i attack and move away at once, while U have to get close first
sure, U free to meassge me, i will spend some time dueling with proper person
cya later

Why not make in PvM section?

And barb > smiter

coH?Lol

aren't marrows good for smiter? don't they do life tap or something?

nah.. they only got charges.

Draculs and Exile will do the Life-tap trick (Although I think it sux and am against it in every possible way)

So this guide is good enough to take out the ubers? i've seen so many, i don't know wich to follow.

After i read this thread i feel like 2 kick those noobs in the ass.
Ok 1st, Nick's guide is not bad and those who think it sux well plz MAKE 1 if u can so just silence urself.
2nd, ppl who think smiter cant beat ww barb unless they add foh = total noob with no experience... there r many ways 2 beat ww barb w/o adding useless skills such as foh and convict (i mean 4 a smiter?? ROFL)
Heres the 1 way 2 beat ww barb with smiter.. u hold shift and nl the barb make sure u dont go up 2 him. Next if he ww missed u or far away from u, press w and pull out your widowmaker if u have 1 and start shooting his ass till he tele or ww towards u then u immediately switch 2 smite gear and do the same thing again. Also if ur life is low then just charge away and start shooting with widowmaker until he's dead. btw there r many other ways 2 ez ww barb just think about it.
SEE?? It's not that hard. So please, 4 those of u who miss guide ppl with "add foh" or "conviction" skills use your brains more often besides even if u did add like 11 pts each into those skills, your foh dmg with convition gonna do shitty dmg that cant kill a quill rat, OKAY??

muah what a bullshit i advice u to us ur shrinked damn brain to think a bit, it will take 1 ww to beet u down while u will be shoting with this himing missle shit u dont have a clue of what are u talking about so better shut up
u will have around 4-4.5k foh, which will act as annoyer, not a killer u retard

This post was edited by konieczny on Sep 2 2005 05:15pm

Rofl, ok, annoyer, 4.5k... Wow, thats some dmg that does like || to a barb, and if u think widowmaker is no better than foh 4 a smiter, id say that u never had widowmaker, and btw, ppl would rather add def skill 2 boost HS instead of some meaningless dmg 2 foh ok?