I don't think 1 socket visionaries can ever compete with arreats tho. I mean yes..you can reach your ias bp's fine, especially if you're using fast weapons like Legend Swords. However you really wouldn't see too many boosts imo. 2 sockets opens up more room, aside from ias jewels.

edit: I hope you know I'm not arguing with your or dismissing the fact that you're trying to have unique setups, I'm just saying in overall practicality, arreats wins vs. almost any visionary I've seen. I had a couple 2 socket visionaries that I would incorporate in certain builds, but not very often.

This post was edited by OSUpride1 on Aug 24 2010 06:42pm

Yeah I agree. Arreats is just too good for any vis to comptete in most cases. I actually tried bajuicers old via, which was one of the top on east, and o still preffered arreats over it in most cases.

I'm not aruging either. but only different between arreats and bo vis helms is

arreats; you gain more max like 1k more

bo helm; you gain like 1k more life and more ar as possibles.

I'm trying have unique setups cuz i'm tired of using cookie cutters but sometimes vis does beat arreats. I've seen BAjuicer beats people with hes vis bunch of times with people uses arreats.



bajuicer helm was simple amazing. it rape some barbs into pieces. I've beat high def conc barbs with my vis also ^^ hes was using sa build also lol.
It only problems is vs pallys, that's it lol.


it was 5-3 twice me :3

This post was edited by LilNeko on Aug 24 2010 07:43pm

nice guide, would like it to be a bit more detailed though, for example i'd like to see different ias breakpoints for a variety of base weapon speeds. Also, how important is fhr for a conc barb?

This post was edited by UltraRobot on Aug 25 2010 09:40pm

Alright thanks for the input. I'll consider adding that in my updated guide. Keep the feedback coming guys! Any weapon types specifically that you were looking for?

This post was edited by Biglouy on Aug 25 2010 09:46pm

fhr is not imported at all. it's usally intruped when dueling zeals/concs/furrys. o_O

only char you char needed fhr is furry/ LOL werewolf/notsure about jabber i said no lol.

not really i just thought it would help if people wanted to try various fools weapons.



ahh good to know. someday ill make something other than a zealot

Alright. And yeah concentrate cannot be interrupted (no fhr needed) And yes, definitely make a concer

they rlly fun to use with fools weps lol.

one of the reasons im so tempted to make one is because you dont need a perfect fools on a barb like you do on a zealot since lolo socket is not as necessary due to crit from mastery. that and i already have all the gear to make a 100% perfect one from my zealot. ehh well i guess id need to get a 20/20 barb torch, dont have that lolz