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Apr 29 2010 06:29am
Like Bonnie Tyler once sang "I need a hero"
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Quote (MrHero @ 29 Apr 2010 13:49)
the only thing I gather from your replies is that none of you actually duel. you just read forums here and troll + flame.

so I'm gonna go with my build working, because it has been working for quite some time, and people like you (who now also say you avoid duels) never take the challenge to prove your "extreme skills".

so, until you're willing to actually prove that your hints has got much to it I'll leave it at that.

and to olba and darkkobra, there are other tactics to catch sorcs than leaping. leaping is like putting up a huge red sign saying "come to close and I'll namelock you". smart sorcs then would use their range while you'll jump around like some moron. I on the other hand only use leap to let the sorcs think I'm trying to stun them, and in that way let em think I'll wait for a stun before my namelock ww is coming, many sorcs don't expect that so yeh I do hit quite often + it helps to have good nl skills and fast perception.

your builds are dime a dousin, it's all called bvc, and doesn't really apply to bva's duelling anything but casters. guillaumes never ever made my barb any better than coa or arreats did (because I did listen to guys like you for some time) and my barb was then built from experience rather than insight in guides.

now call it what you want. this build has proven its effectiveness to me, however you keep saying you don't duel with your precious barb builds, but keep flaming your superiority so I'll just leave it at that kids.

Nice that you assume that nobody but you is actually dueling :) Makes you look even more retarded (I really thought its impossible, but you managed it to look even like bigger retard, lol gz)
I have told you why your shitty build simply WONT work vs anyone halfdecent, there are already few guys who looked at this pathetic display of your incompetence and stupidity, who told you the same things like I did, yet all you had to come back with is: "your builds are dime a dousin, it's all called bvc, and doesn't really apply to bva's duelling anything but casters. now call it what you want. this build has proven its effectiveness to me"
What about to duel someone HALF-decent first, before claiming that your shitty build works? I assure you that everybody with IQ>brick will tear apart you and your shitty barb 24/7, since it just terribad build obviously played by an incompetent donkey like you (no offense ofc :) )
Have fun catching sorcs with your "other tactics", while it has been tested in countless duels since years, that leap_tele_ww or a simpe chainzerking will work the best. Mind to explain what are you going to do vs a defensive fb sorc, who is offscreen all the time? How are you going to catch her? Even with 3k fcr on boswitch, you wont have any chance, since they will tele offscreen every time as soon as they see you comming close? How do you want to stun them to get a chance for a namelock without maxed leap you donkey??

However, gratz on becoming one of the biggest jokes in SnG in last few years :thumbsup:

ZOMG I AER BVA NN HL!!! MARAS, 105FCR ON BOSWITCH AND 30FHR ENOUGH FOR PRO LIEK ME TO KILL ALL!!! I WAS ONE OF TOP5 BARBS EU! --> if you were anything near EUs topbarbs you would have started bragging about it, but since you have not mentioned it once again - I guess it was nothing but a weak attempt to look at least a bit less retarded than you actually are... way to go for clowns like you I guess haha
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Apr 29 2010 06:41am
Quote (halo273 @ 29 Apr 2010 14:28)
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sry to admit this but mrhero>you we found someone who has vastly surpassed urs and olba's barb knowledge mrhero will now be proclaimed as "GOD OF BARBS"  :hail:


ye, how the fuck could we all be so dumb over years and used shitty HL with its giant dmg boost, while we simply overlooked the gawdly maras with its 2 skills and 30 res... :thumbsup:

and...ofc overrated stun from leap, 1pt seems to work with "maras build", as well as 30 fhr, since he on the other hand only uses leap to let the sorcs think he is trying to stun them!!!!1ShiftOne

This post was edited by darkkobra on Apr 29 2010 06:44am
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Apr 29 2010 06:44am
hehe, I actually enjoyed some of this discussion, it has given me inputs too, but most of the gearchange is based on two things

guillaume's "effectiveness" and highlords added chance of double damage vs sorcs (like 8k ww maxdmg needs that vs a sorc with 1,5k life that will be down @ 1 life after your first ow hits regardless).

and third also of a bvc's advantage in 63 fcr frame setup, but bvc's have guides all along the line now, and are seriously common..

most of the replies applied to a bvc will work, but in a bva arreats > guillaume's (because guillaume's effectiveness seriously drops as the life goes down, which makes crushing blow worse and worse as the duel progresses). Not willing to lose 25 stats in vita over this. Nor the 20% bonus to ar, skills and allres vs the elemental damage you may also experience.

I admit that necro's and hammerdins are flawed in the explaination, and a boner usually has tactical advantage with their range and non-reducable damage + high fcr (which u can't match without going for 63%, but then you lose ALOT of effectivity vs other chars just to have this kind of gearswitch available).

Keep the life high, so that you on a bad day might still win because you witstand more than your opponent. Defence counts for more than you ppl think vs mellee. And perf items might be expensive, but they are expensive because ppl want perfection (why else would they be expensive if ppl was satisfied with avg items)?
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Apr 29 2010 06:45am
Quote (darkkobra @ Apr 29 2010 12:40pm)
Nice that you assume that nobody but you is actually dueling :) Makes you look even more retarded (I really thought its impossible, but you managed it to look even like bigger retard, lol gz)
I have told you why your shitty build simply WONT work vs anyone halfdecent, there are already few guys who looked at this pathetic  display of your incompetence and stupidity, who told you the same things like I did, yet all you had to come back with is: "your builds are dime a dousin, it's all called bvc, and doesn't really apply to bva's duelling anything but casters. now call it what you want. this build has proven its effectiveness to me"
What about to duel someone HALF-decent first, before claiming that your shitty build works? I assure you that everybody with IQ>brick will tear apart you and your shitty barb 24/7, since it just terribad build obviously played by an incompetent donkey like you (no offense ofc :) )
Have fun catching sorcs with your "other tactics", while it has been tested in countless duels since years, that leap_tele_ww or a simpe chainzerking will work the best. Mind to explain what are you going to do vs a defensive fb sorc, who is offscreen all the time? How are you going to catch her? Even with 3k fcr on boswitch, you wont have any chance, since they will tele offscreen every time as soon as they see you comming close? How do you want to stun them to get a chance for a namelock without maxed leap you donkey??

However, gratz on becoming one of the biggest jokes in SnG in last few years :thumbsup:

ZOMG I AER BVA NN HL!!! MARAS, 105FCR ON BOSWITCH AND 30FHR ENOUGH FOR PRO LIEK ME TO KILL ALL!!! I WAS ONE OF TOP5 BARBS EU! --> if you were anything near EUs topbarbs you would have started bragging about it, but since you have not mentioned it once again - I guess it was nothing but a weak attempt to look at least a bit less retarded than you actually are... way to go for clowns like you I guess haha


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Apr 29 2010 06:49am
only time shield is needed is in tvt or vs bowazon...all other time duel wield >
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Apr 29 2010 06:53am
Quote (MrHero @ 29 Apr 2010 14:44)
hehe, I actually enjoyed some of this discussion, it has given me inputs too, but most of the gearchange is based on two things

guillaume's "effectiveness" and highlords added chance of double damage vs sorcs (like 8k ww maxdmg needs that vs a sorc with 1,5k life that will be down @ 1 life after your first ow hits regardless).

and third also of a bvc's advantage in 63 fcr frame setup, but bvc's have guides all along the line now, and are seriously common..

most of the replies applied to a bvc will work, but in a bva arreats > guillaume's (because guillaume's effectiveness seriously drops as the life goes down, which makes crushing blow worse and worse as the duel progresses). Not willing to lose 25 stats in vita over this. Nor the 20% bonus to ar, skills and allres vs the elemental damage you may also experience.

I admit that necro's and hammerdins are flawed in the explaination, and a boner usually has tactical advantage with their range and non-reducable damage + high fcr (which u can't match without going for 63%, but then you lose ALOT of effectivity vs other chars just to have this kind of gearswitch available).

Keep the life high, so that you on a bad day might still win because you witstand more than your opponent. Defence counts for more than you ppl think vs mellee. And perf items might be expensive, but they are expensive because ppl want perfection (why else would they be expensive if ppl was satisfied with avg items)?


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setup vs elementaldruids:
shield, grief, angelic rings + amu, dungo, draculs, arreats and gores.
- reason is that with this setup you keep max attack rating, which will make you hit each and every time and thereby killing your opponent faster. I also discovered (and I have been unable to prove this) that while wearing a shield I took less damage with 50% dr setup than I did with coa 50% dr setup, while still being able to hit and kill without the fana add from beast.


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Quote (MrHero @ 29 Apr 2010 14:44)
hehe, I actually enjoyed some of this discussion, it has given me inputs too, but most of the gearchange is based on two things

guillaume's "effectiveness" and highlords added chance of double damage vs sorcs (like 8k ww maxdmg needs that vs a sorc with 1,5k life that will be down @ 1 life after your first ow hits regardless).

and third also of a bvc's advantage in 63 fcr frame setup, but bvc's have guides all along the line now, and are seriously common..

most of the replies applied to a bvc will work, but in a bva arreats > guillaume's (because guillaume's effectiveness seriously drops as the life goes down, which makes crushing blow worse and worse as the duel progresses). Not willing to lose 25 stats in vita over this. Nor the 20% bonus to ar, skills and allres vs the elemental damage you may also experience.

I admit that necro's and hammerdins are flawed in the explaination, and a boner usually has tactical advantage with their range and non-reducable damage + high fcr (which u can't match without going for 63%, but then you lose ALOT of effectivity vs other chars just to have this kind of gearswitch available).

Keep the life high, so that you on a bad day might still win because you witstand more than your opponent. Defence counts for more than you ppl think vs mellee. And perf items might be expensive, but they are expensive because ppl want perfection (why else would they be expensive if ppl was satisfied with avg items)?


wasnt you pretending to know something about dmg mods, including OW? How do you want to get 1.5k life sorc down to 1 life with 1 OW hit? :)
If you already pretend to know something about barbs, then you should be able to grasp that bva should be played with 63fcr as well in certain matches. Nobody is going to kill your dog, if you decide to use griffon or dual weapons on a bva ^_^

And what should that 20% ar be good for when you face a fucking sorc with 1-2k defense?? Are you really that stupid??
You can keep your life as high as you want, you wont make enough dmg to constantly win duels vs anyone HALF-decent, due to the lack of fcr on main slot (again for you clown - switching to boslot for fcr is RETARDED!!), due to the lack of dmgboost from HL and/or the lack of fhr. Not to forget that you dont even use few mana scs on your barb. How the fuck do you want to chase a defensive caster with your 300-400 mana? LOL

Ofcourse you admit that necros and hammers are "flawed in you explanation", since thats the biggest pile od donkeypoo that you could actually write down! In such duels you sinply WONT have that many chances to land a hit, thus you should use/take/push every possible bit of dmg to make as high dmg as possible when you get one of that few chances to hit them. What are you suggesting to do vs necros? TO USE A SHITTY MARAS ALONG WITH A FUCKING SHIELD HAHAHA!!!!

Also, this "Defence counts for more than you ppl think vs mellee" ^_^ no shit sherlock???
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