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Aug 11 2009 01:40pm
Quote (deathwinger @ Mon, Aug 10 2009, 04:27am)
You should not even be using oak in the first place, much less putting more than one point into it.
A shaman's active sage is Heart of Wolverine.

For one, a shaman doesn't have close to enough skill points to spare.
But mostly, oak sage is hideously overrated

Thing is, oak sage doesn't really do much in PvP. Almost every single attack in duels will kill your oak sage before it hits you. And since your +% hp bonus vanishes the same frame it dies, you take damage from those attacks as if you never had it. What good is 6000 hp, if its only 3000 HP while you're getting hit? Your HP doesn't matter until you get attacked, and when you get attacked, oak sage dies 95% of the time.
For example, any splash attack, like fireball, will hit you both, and invariably kill it. Single target things like hammers/guided arrows will kill it first since its a minion stack, and then hit you
Theres almost nothing that can hit you in pvp without taking out your oak. Even whirlwind will hit it as often as you, so even if the first hit is on you, its likely it will die and the next few will strike you

Really, heart of wolverine is the spirit you should have out. In those 95% of cases, it gives you as much +HP as oak would; it absorbs a single hit. On the other hand, wolverine tends to die *AFTER* your grizzly hits someone, not before, and thus you get to benefit fully from its effect. And hell, the entire point is moot, because if you're tanking with a shaman you're doing something wrong. If you need to play something like a hammerdin or bvc that can tank a million hits, a shaman is not the character to make


that is true, the only thing that you didn't consider is in tpk as long as your team is in your oak radius it does help them substantially
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Quote (Confessions. @ Tue, Aug 11 2009, 02:40pm)
that is true, the only thing that you didn't consider is in tpk as long as your team is in your oak radius it does help them substantially


yep I use it in tvt of course
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i built this druid recently

The attacks are good, when written out
it sounded all nice and dandy
and ive played a tele bear druid / tele fire druid

so im aware of how to play them

but this builds attacks cant catch anyone

they are easily avoidable by just teleporting away

bear does attack fast sometimes, but other times, he doesnt attack, for whatever reason
the ar of the bear is decent, but its like trying to tele with a paladin, that uses regular attack

and once you stomp with the bear, the persons either casted away, or attacked you or the bear
once the bear is gone, and you've casted volcano
most likely their attack will be dealing more damage
and this build will have lower life than most builds

also, its fire spells are easily sorbed, most commonly by paladins
once you're sorbed, we have a backup bear/volcano.. right?
well, its hard to strike a pally with bear, and if you're lucky enough to, paladins are more effective close range
you either gotta teleport away and give up or die

this build imo is a good town camper
but nothing above the average hdin or smiter..


if there is any secret to this build id really like to hear it
but if not, its a cute hybrid


This is my part of the build

once ladder resets, ill try the other 4-5 characters i have waiting.. and maybe ill make a 'different' build


Also, im gonna remake this build with stacked resists (+300 if i can get) with dr and mb
i know this build isnt supposed to tank at all, but any char that cant tank, is garbage

glass cannons may be good, but they have the adrantage to be on the other side on the blood moor and they can attack
this build is different
you have to enguage your enemy

This post was edited by MarcFD on Aug 24 2009 08:02pm
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Sep 6 2009 08:16pm
so unoriginal, what person who has played d2 has not made a fire element druid? which by the way is known throughout the whole community as the infamous town guarder
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Quote (ekyee @ Sun, Sep 6 2009, 10:16pm)
so unoriginal, what person who has played d2 has not made a fire element druid? which by the way is known throughout the whole community as the infamous town guarder


me....
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This build doesnt do well against barbs. I have dueled these types of druids before, or pretty close to this type. The summons pop and hspurs owns their fire dmg.
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