@OP: The guide looks comprehensive. I'll read through it later on, but for now, one important suggestion:

Get rid of the mass colouring (stick to a few colours, if any; it's much easier on the eyes).


@Anca: You are probably not going to win this one. At least be careful with some of your statements.

1st
You are ignoring the 33% triggering AD effect from Lacerator which is exactly the reason to use them.
AD removes 100 % physical resist against any non-immune (20 % against phys immune).

Lacerator + Warshrike + HL: 33 % OW, 83-87 % DS (@ clvl 90-99), 33 % CtC slvl 3 AD => win !

2nd
105 fcr telespeed is the same as a sorc. Public knowledge: a sorc can tele just fine with a Spirit shield.
Add to that, a barb has a ton more life.

5th
The +10 vita add from wt is non-boostable life, whereas the straight added life on IK boots is boostable.
I cannot see that you account for this.

Leaving '3rd' and '4th' for you two to discuss.

This post was edited by Faelwen on Sep 8 2008 03:09am

1. I don`t ignore the AD

however since ds is applied to all your physical damage after ayll off wepaon ed is applied, and AD is something totally different

the ds on the warshrike only applies to a hit done with the shrikes and if there is AD on the monster, the more damage, the better
with a helmet like Guillaume`s
he will be at 100% ds with the shrikes and da 50-6x with the lacerators which means more physical damage which then gets increased by the fact that AD is casted

he is probably at what
144% ed from his merc
160ish from double throw
120ish from mastery
75 from str
55ish from dex
--->554% off weapon ed

which means that gulli = ~ 105% additional ed for his shrikes
and ~ 155% additional off weapon ed for the lacerators
+ another 25% from the additional str

2nd
sorc can use the spirit but the barb simply does not have to
with dualhoto he wins a skill, more resis and more fcr (wether that matters, depends on eq)
add to that, that he does not block anymore

okay mea culpa for the vita, forgot the BO completely ^^
so let´s see
wt`s offer 10 str, which equals 40 BO-able life and another 40 non bo-able life
Ik offers 44 hitpoints that can be boosted

which means
4 hp (+BO) from IK versus 40 of wt`s#

so let`s give this barb a lvl 50 BO, which means 182% more life/mana
1,82* 4=7,28

which means 11 hitpoints from the IK boots versus 40 of wt`s
stiull means ~ 2 charms free for the wt`s

This post was edited by Ancalagon on Sep 8 2008 03:12am

Edited my replies into your post.

This post was edited by Faelwen on Sep 8 2008 03:56am

totally forgot

more life witgh hoto because it does not need 156 str ^^
or more ar/damage because dex

his build wants to use a 156 str monarch
imho a bit doubteable that het will do without any str at all
assuming charlevel 90
barb starts with 30
eni=67
20 arre
30 from average torch and anni
----->147 str
9 str need to be put in to reach spirit
only with 1 point less to perfect attributes from either torch or anni, he will be at 0 str with his build

however
30 str anni+torch+30 basestr +67 of eni=127
now add additional 25 of gulli and wt`s to that and you`re at 152 points str, which means 4 points to invest if you want the spirit

to your last answer

that stands rigfht below what you`ve put into that

BLOW YOUR ALL OMG!!
This is one of the best guides i have seen!
Never tryed it out because i havnt seen any guides there was good.. but this! omg! im making it ladder, and i starts right now! LVL 99T/barb here i come!
Ty for best guide @ d2jsp.

Edited again.

This post was edited by Faelwen on Sep 8 2008 04:38am

dex does matter in so far as we can go on about point 11 of the guide ar+damage

jupp he will need almost perfect stats from anni and torch to wear the monarch, but otherwise he is far better of using wt`s and gulli because he will kill faster with those, needing less time for the run and thus get more xp from waves

the point AR is really debateable when looking at the fact that one has
basear,raven,dex,mastery,ar bonus of the attack, the fana of the merc,possible enchant and so on and so forth

and wether Ik boots really offer that live ore is doubteable because we can get to that story from a different angle and say....
wt`s offer more damage and if the ik boots wanna do the same damage, you`ll need more maxdam in your inv, meaning less life

ill go try

Make a video of a chaos run please . Get some other program to save the feed or buy a new pc if you have to, I really wanna see this .
Might try make one myself on euscl

Are you still rambling on with senseless BS about a build you know nothing about? With your poor excuse for logic. You are not trying to get max block, so get that out of your head, 40% block while teleing is all he needs. This isnt a pvp melee barb using a shield.
All your suggestions have been tried and failed in previous builds of this barb. This is hands down the most successful build option there is. John has spent over 2 seasons worth of time working on this build and has taken it to lvl 98 and lvl 99 100% legit.
Using spirit and hoto he already reaches the fcr bp of 105. So yet again your "logic" is failing you.

Just STFU before you looks as dumb as Ultima1