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Jun 16 2008 07:56pm
How do you really think that nobody is gonna be able to catch you? You tele slower than everybody chasing you...

Lets see here

A sin typically has 65% fcr. That is one frame faster than you

A druid has at least 99% fcr. Still a frame faster than you

Sorcs are faster with almost every setup

Palas are faster with almost every setup

Barb only needs 20% fcr to be just as fast, 37% to be faster

Nec is at least 1 frame faster and in most cases 2 frames faster.


So, how are you propose to not get caught?

This post was edited by VickIsSick07 on Jun 16 2008 08:10pm
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Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Mon, Jun 16 2008, 08:56pm)
How do you really think that nobody is gonna be able to catch you? You tele slower than everybody chasing you...

Lets see here

A sin typically has 65% fcr. That is one frame faster than you

A druid has at least 99% fcr. Still a frame faster than you

Sorcs are faster with almost every setup

Palas are faster with almost every setup

Barb only needs 20% fcr to be just as fast, 37% to be faster

Nec is at least 1 frame faster and in most cases 2 frames faster.


So, how are you propose to not get caught?



Did I not explain this? Do You not read?

Cat & Mouse, telly walk.

Then Again, perhaps you are unaware of how to duel with a zon that's pure run/walk, and therefore don't fully understand the dynamics of telly-walk.

Quote (Shadow_lad @ Mon, Jun 16 2008, 08:56pm)
Barbarians beat your trash fcr frames with just standard setup. Like it's hard to drink some antidotes or fight slow with slow. You highly overestimate your build


You highly underestimate my build.

But that's okay.

Quote (PSPZorZ @ Mon, Jun 16 2008, 08:50pm)
like the guide sorow ima read furter into it when I get home smile.gif



fer sure, just don't let some of the comments here discourage you. We're both on east so it shouldn't be a problem showing you tongue.gif

This post was edited by sorowfulhatred on Jun 17 2008 10:31am
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Jun 17 2008 10:42am
Lower fcr frames even when you're on fcr switch , doom , 25% slow from cleg + 10% from arach , 90% Poison res => dead zon
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Quote (Shadow_lad @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 11:42am)
Lower fcr frames even when you're on fcr switch , doom , 25% slow from cleg + 10% from arach , 90% Poison res => dead zon


"bva: I once dueled a 7k life, max block, doomz barb and won 5-1, so it is quite possible LOL! (and yes, with this very char). You must play defensively, he will absolutely tank the shit out of you, but guess what? He's a fat ass. If you see that you've landed a hit you have 1 of 2 options: run around for 6-8 seconds (use dracs v max block, you don't land enough hits for clegaws to be of much help) while psn and ow do their job, or continue firing away smile.gif Depending on the barb's level of skill, you can just easily avoid him."

It's really just not as difficult as you make it out to be.

And a barb who wears all of that would, imo, sacrifice too much.

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Jun 17 2008 11:04am
Nice guide, but there is a reason that barbs/zons etc only are allowed 1psn charm in their inventory (for legit euro duels anyway)
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Quote (asSmiLk @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 12:04pm)
Nice guide, but there is a reason that barbs/zons etc only are allowed 1psn charm in their inventory (for legit euro duels anyway)


Because Europe doesn't believe in needing resists?

Because antidotes aren't sold @ akara?

Or because everyone's a pussy tongue.gif

I play to win =/ (legitly)
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Jun 17 2008 11:24am
cool guide, looks like it has lots of potential. also like that you didn't under-estimate psn necs like most ppl in their dueling section, even though as you mentioned, there are very few good ones.
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Jun 17 2008 11:27am
poison blows unless you play poorly sleep.gif
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Jun 17 2008 11:49am
i like it. Just wondering what the justification is for using 5/5's instead of 20-5's since you're tele (excuse me if you explained this previously, i didn't read through your second page)

hmm isn't the damage pretty low for a poison zon? Not sure, but i thought psn zons could have well over 10k damage.

Of course, your life is pretty huge but your damage suffers quite a lot. max resist (though people don't usually care for max psn resist), max block seems to pretty much negate your psn zon =(. Especially if you can have 7k physical damage with 1-1.2k life.
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Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Tue, Jun 17 2008, 06:52pm)
"bva: I once dueled a 7k life, max block, doomz barb and won 5-1, so it is quite possible LOL! (and yes, with this very char). You must play defensively, he will absolutely tank the shit out of you, but guess what? He's a fat ass. If you see that you've landed a hit you have 1 of 2 options: run around for 6-8 seconds (use dracs v max block, you don't land enough hits for clegaws to be of much help) while psn and ow do their job, or continue firing away smile.gif Depending on the barb's level of skill, you can just easily avoid him."

It's really just not as difficult as you make it out to be.

And a barb who wears all of that would, imo, sacrifice too much.


what are you talking about ? switch beast for doom , draculs for clegs and drink a few antidotes before duel
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