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Apr 21 2008 08:21pm
20/2H with 19 traps instead of 20 = 8.3 (3) 11.3 (3) 11.3 (3)

so i don't think lvl 19 traps help =/
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Apr 21 2008 08:36pm
Quote (darcanegel @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 02:02am)
20/20h = 6.6 (3) 7.3 (3) 6 (3)

ok, well it sure as hell looks like 20 points in sm, at the very least, doesn't help.  it might actually hurt your chances to get mindblast.


Pretty much what Ive been saying for a while, however the 2 hard points in master making her mb more is very weird, if you have time I'd like to see test results of 20/1 vs 20/2 with varying amounts of +skills on gear, see if that makes the results any different.
Ive noticed that my physical damage wwsin (using 20 mb, 1 shadow, +13 skills, +2 more shadow disc) and my trapper (20 mb, 1 shadow, +14 skills) have their shadows mindblast a lot more than (shadow disc wwsin) builds Ive played on with 20 mb, 1 shadow, and full 9skillers of shadow disc charms along with regular +skills. Perhaps shadow being boosted higher by +skills also hurts it's ability to mindblast.

Im not sure how the 2 hard points in shadow would play into this given your current test results. <.<
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Apr 21 2008 08:40pm
15/2 = 4.3 (3) 4.3 (3) 3 (3)

so it definitely looks like max mindblast is the way to go =/
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Quote (Ziecheik @ Mon, Apr 21 2008, 06:36pm)
Pretty much what Ive been saying for a while, however the 2 hard points in master making her mb more is very weird, if you have time I'd like to see test results of 20/1 vs 20/2 with varying amounts of +skills on gear, see if that makes the results any different.
Ive noticed that my physical damage wwsin (using 20 mb, 1 shadow, +13 skills, +2 more shadow disc) and my trapper (20 mb, 1 shadow, +14 skills) have their shadows mindblast a lot more than (shadow disc wwsin) builds Ive played on with 20 mb, 1 shadow, and full 9skillers of shadow disc charms along with regular +skills. Perhaps shadow being boosted higher by +skills also hurts it's ability to mindblast.

Im not sure how the 2 hard points in shadow would play into this given your current test results. <.<


i think i actually figured that out. i think, in general, it's bad to have high lvl sm (in terms of chance to mb) BUT with my gear (102 fcr build trapper) i get lvl 16 sm with 1 pt and 17 with 2 points, so it's possible the rare amulet is making it mindblast more because of some potential mods or something =/ that would somewhat explain the results. i will be doing more 20/1 and 20/2 testing next though, since that seems to be the major confusing...besides that the results make pretty good sense.

thx for the experience results though too, obviously those are helpful as well. i haven't made any shadows with all shadow gcs so my master has never been higher than like 20 =/
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Ahh, you're missing out. Level 45+ master is a wonderfull thing haha. It's the reason I can sleep at night....or mid day....or whenever I sleep.

LOL, in other news a smiter named usoundDUMB dies to a quill rat after massive trash talk while trying to run from me.

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Ahh, you're missing out. Level 45+ master is a wonderfull thing haha. It's the reason I can sleep at night....or mid day....or whenever I sleep.


450 Warfist +50 Master win.
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Ahh, you're missing out. Level 45+ master is a wonderfull thing haha. It's the reason I can sleep at night....or mid day....or whenever I sleep.


well mine was like lvl 36 when i tested it @ 20h...no matter how nice lvl 45 sm is, i'm not using shadow skillers on a trapper tongue.gif

why what makes lvl 45 master better? immunities? high life?
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Apr 21 2008 08:50pm
Quote (darcanegel @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 02:48am)
well mine was like lvl 36 when i tested it @ 20h...no matter how nice lvl 45 sm is, i'm not using shadow skillers on a trapper tongue.gif

why what makes lvl 45 master better? immunities? high life?


The life/damage haha, my shadow master on my ghost is always immune to spells too, so I guess that also. Not sure if there is any benefit of it being 45+, just that's what I have so I put it.
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Quote (darcanegel @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 02:48am)
well mine was like lvl 36 when i tested it @ 20h...no matter how nice lvl 45 sm is, i'm not using shadow skillers on a trapper tongue.gif

why what makes lvl 45 master better?  immunities?  high life?


Obviously youre not using level 48+ shadow master that spawns with 2x 450 claws and steelrends.
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Quote (alia @ Mon, Apr 21 2008, 09:47pm)
450 Warfist +50 Master win.


I'm really wanting to make a fort sin...do you have one?
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