facts :
-your sense of humor is bad then
-just because i choose to type a lot doesnt mean i'm venting over here ; it's still a relaxed convo.

facts for savage:
- you're the one that broke the silence
- ww max range > your max range ( even if you'll argue that barbs won't have space to be specialised vs your shit wolf )
- even if you used rabies i can negate that to zero (by your rules)
- only reason shapers can't kill necros(by your definition) is because you can't sorb them



mentioned max res which has the same outcome of absorb



MAXres . not stacked res

This post was edited by Shadow_lad on Feb 17 2008 09:53pm

ill just go ahead and make a list...
- I said I was done, then you said something that required a response so I responded.
- Range of whirlwind is not greater than fury...I'm not even sure how you came to that conclusion. Both a Barbarian and a Druid can use 5 ranged weapons which is the same range, not more. But if both the Barbarian and the fury Druid were to use weapons with a range of 5, the Druid would have the upper hand due to superior damage, 5 hits per attack and more life.
- No one is even talking about rabies, and my rules? I never made any rules, I stated rules that are already acknowledged by 99% of the Diablo 2 community if that is what you are referring to.
- I never said the reason Shapers can't kill Necromancers is because they aren't sorbable, and I'm the one making up answers? LOL. The reason Shapers can't kill bone Necromancers is because of bone armor, I'm sure you know what it does so I won't bother explaining it, but when it is destroyed, it is swiftly recasted making it hard for the Shaper to even do damage to the Necromancer. On top of that, should the Necromancer decide to be an asshole, he can cast prison on the Druid and follow it with Iron Maiden, since the druid can't teleport he is stuck inside the prison while getting spammed with spears and spirits.
- Items that add to max resistances actually have a better outcome than absorb when it comes to stopping elemental damage, but max resistances aren't BM.

This post was edited by xXxS4v4g3xXx on Feb 17 2008 10:05pm

I wonder why smiters can't win vs barbs by shift+ smite when both have the same range(ba vs ba) , smite always hits , smite can't be interupted , smiter has lifetap , smiter has maxblock, smiter has more def. I really wonder why...
Thx for explaining the intense mechanincs of druid vs necro ; very refreshing and new information there

Is that sarcasm or sincerity? I can't tell lol...I'm just making sure you are aware of this because it is a very important piece of information. You do realize that smite and fury are two different attacks right? While smite has this problem fury does not, I'm sure you won't believe me but I have tested this on more than one occasion.

This is theorycrafting on my part again due to my incomplete knowledge of game mechanics, but here goes.

Whirlwind is a 4 frame attack that is moving.

Let's assume that both the wolf and barb are using shields and one handed weapons.

Fury has a starting attack speed of 9,8,7,6 frames depending on weapon, (let's assume druid is using ebotdz and therefore has 9/5 fury)

If the barb has supreme WW control he'd be able to perform 2 hit checks while the druid hasn't even got his first attack off.

This would require AI level reaction time and control to do consistently though.

EDIT:I have killed more then my share of barbs though

This post was edited by Myrddrall9 on Feb 17 2008 10:22pm

I'm sure your duel experiences are overwhelming and in your head they backup what you say. I'm also sure the overwhelming part got to you...
Yes, melee druids are the pvp masters and it takes an insane amount of skill to play without going insane.

so basically what youre saying is it will only happen by accident? good deal lol...I don't have an in depth knowledge of game mechanics either but i do know if you shift fury with a wep that has range of 5 against a ww barb using a wep of the same range, the druid is going to hit more.



I never said melee druids were "pvp masters" I said "fury druids have the potential to be the best melee build." I'm wondering if this is you admitting "defeat" seeing as you really haven't contested anything I just said.

This post was edited by xXxS4v4g3xXx on Feb 17 2008 10:33pm

sure , it the barb wws too close. He said that if played correctly , ww owns fury. He also said that would be rare(playing correctly). l2comprehend

This post was edited by Shadow_lad on Feb 17 2008 10:31pm

Smiter....

Regards,

I'm saying that WW has an advantage over Fury, it's just that most duelers can't take full advantage of it (though there are some that could quite often no doubt).