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Jan 27 2009 07:27am
You didn't add helm options. happy.gif
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Jan 27 2009 11:27am
Quote (crowdedbo @ Tue, Jan 27 2009, 08:27am)
You didn't add helm options. happy.gif


coa offers everything u need, res, dmg, ias for 7 fpa if u use diamond bow, DR, fhr, +1 skill..... what other helm would u use on this zon? 12045 or gaze? no thx..
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Quote (Mattd90 @ Tue, Jan 27 2009, 05:27pm)
coa offers everything u need, res, dmg, ias for 7 fpa if u use diamond bow, DR, fhr, +1 skill..... what other helm would u use on this zon? 12045 or gaze? no thx..
Shako has +2 skills, 10% DR, and 140 life.

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Shako has +2 skills, 10% DR, and 140 life.


yeah, it also has one less socket too sleep.gif
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Jan 27 2009 05:51pm
I do not know if it has been mentioned before:

I think you should alter your inventory SLIGHTLY.

Remove some of the 3/20/20's and add in:
Sharp Large Charms of Dexterity:
6/48/5 dex
The dex covers some of the other issues since you are Vita build.
And those large charms covers your damage in 2 ways.

Some people use the 3/20/2 dex sc's, but, as you can see, the Large Charm adds 8 AR and 1 extra dex per 2 slots.

If you had 4x LC's, you will reach the same max dmg as 8x 3/20's, you will get 32 more attack rating and also 4% more ed (comparing with 3/20/2's of course)

Just a thought.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 27 2009 05:51pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Tue, Jan 27 2009, 07:51pm)
I do not know if it has been mentioned before:

I think you should alter your inventory SLIGHTLY.

Remove some of the 3/20/20's and add in:
Sharp Large Charms of Dexterity:
6/48/5 dex
The dex covers some of the other issues since you are Vita build.
And those large charms covers your damage in 2 ways.

Some people use the 3/20/2 dex sc's, but, as you can see, the Large Charm adds 8 AR and 1 extra dex per 2 slots.

If you had 4x LC's, you will reach the same max dmg as 8x 3/20's, you will get 32 more attack rating and also 4% more ed (comparing with 3/20/2's of course)

Just a thought.


So you're actually recommending replacing life charms with dex on a vitabowzon. That would require me to give up 160 life ( 268 with BO) for +32 ar and +4% ed (basically insignificant)...HAHA, I'm sorry but that truly is funny.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 27 2009 06:04pm
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How much fhr should the vita zon have?
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Quote (Spartikis @ Wed, Jan 28 2009, 01:01pm)
So you're actually recommending replacing life charms with dex on a vitabowzon. That would require me to give up 160 life ( 268 with BO) for +32 ar and +4% ed (basically insignificant)...HAHA, I'm sorry but that truly is funny.


For PvP, your reference would be correct
For PvM, your reference would be worthless, as you are already full Vita and you do not need the excess.

If you do not wish to lose the life ones, you could alter others, BTW, not every1 duels on NL, and the 5% FRW sc's are not on ladder.

Every scenario, game player adapts, even in PvP situations, sometimes the extra dmg & AR (for MS) can be more useful vs others, considering you can still tank alot more damage than the typical Glasscannon, or are you saying that your build is not that effective and has to rely on PURE life because your damage is average?

Ideas are given to try out, you might be surprised in the outcome, that 4% dmg could be the difference in opponents life remaining and he/she gets in the last shot.

Anyway, you could always Pre-Bow and swap a little inventory, not that hard and you do not lose that much life, i think it is only the 160 from sc's

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 27 2009 06:12pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Tue, Jan 27 2009, 08:11pm)
For PvP, your reference would be correct
For PvM, your reference would be worthless, as you are already full Vita and you do not need the excess.

If you do not wish to lose the life ones, you could alter others, BTW, not every1 duels on NL, and the 5% FRW sc's are not on ladder.

Every scenario, game player adapts, even in PvP situations, sometimes the extra dmg & AR (for MS) can be more useful vs others, considering you can still tank alot more damage than the typical Glasscannon, or are you saying that your build is not that effective and has to rely on PURE life because your damage is average?

Ideas are given to try out, you might be surprised in the outcome, that 4% dmg could be the difference in opponents life remaining and he/she gets in the last shot.

Anyway, you could always Pre-Bow and swap a little inventory, not that hard and you do not lose that much life, i think it is only the 160 from sc's


well bowzons are only good in PVP, if you need to PVM get a hammerdin.

They have 3% on ladder, they work just fine.
4% ed would add 12 points to your max dmg. Would you rather have 268 extra life or 48 more dmg?
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Jan 27 2009 08:12pm
Quote (Spartikis @ Tue, Jan 27 2009, 09:03pm)
well bowzons are only good in PVP, if you need to PVM get a hammerdin.

They have 3% on ladder, they work just fine.
4% ed would add 12 points to your max dmg. Would you rather have 268 extra life or 48 more dmg?


That's wrong. If you are looking for white/soc'd/Sup armor(3soc sup ed% Ds for example) & weapons(5 Soc sup Ed%/dura Zeker), you'll want less mf, so the chances of a magic/rare/set/unique dropping, will go down.
You could ask "why would someone what to item find?". Too find the wanted/needed gear for those oh so lovely rw's you make your forts, faiths, & enigmas.

Some people maybe same just use a hdin for that, and they do, but some like to use bowas. Very low mf to no mf, high dmg, kills fast, and it's fun to play.

But to each their own.

This post was edited by BillyGnosis on Jan 27 2009 08:14pm
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