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Jul 25 2009 11:40pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 06:38)
well for those w/o salvation they can place vigor or cleasing or some other defensive skill those 2 slots instead (i use cleasing which i get from my cta atm) - as for zeal. i couldnt find a better skill to put there lol.

but basically all 16 hotkeys are used up :/


Well personally I think rc foh would be better than Zeal, but yeah ok lol.

I use vigor and cleansing, buuut I don't use holy bolt since I don't team duel with a v/t myself.
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Jul 25 2009 11:43pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Sun, Jul 26 2009, 01:40am)
Well personally I think rc foh would be better than Zeal, but yeah ok lol.

I use vigor and cleansing, buuut I don't use holy bolt since I don't team duel with a v/t myself.


yea. but u never know when you need to and it always helps xD

and btw the way you put foh on right click, you cant use conviction at the same time. conviction is a beautiful skill because vs noobs, it lets you 1-2 hit them and vs better players they are forced to stack your conviction which in turn forces them to lose something else (life/dr/damage/ar/etc...)

that makes your smite damage stronger indirectly
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Jul 25 2009 11:48pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 06:43)
yea. but u never know when you need to and it always helps xD

and btw the way you put foh on right click, you cant use conviction at the same time. conviction is a beautiful skill because vs noobs, it lets you 1-2 hit them and vs better players they are forced to stack your conviction which in turn forces them to lose something else (life/dr/damage/ar/etc...)

that makes your smite damage stronger indirectly


Ya I guess lol. Nice gimmick skill ><

I know you can't use convic with it, I use it on rc sometimes to continue a lock while putting pressure on someone. The way I see it, if it makes someone screw up and make a mistake I can instantly teleport and get 1-2 free smites on them while continuing a lock, which is a lot more than convic does for damage. Plus most good duelers stack against it anyway so that switching to convic against them wastes time, but I think it's necessary to always have it incase they take off their stack so you can punish them for doing it (or to rape pubs lol).

In any case I use both, so it's not like I lose anything anyway. :p lc if they have crap res, rc to chainlock with it.
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Jul 25 2009 11:51pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Sun, Jul 26 2009, 01:48am)
Ya I guess lol. Nice gimmick skill ><

I know you can't use convic with it, I use it on rc sometimes to continue a lock while putting pressure on someone. The way I see it, if it makes someone screw up and make a mistake I can instantly teleport and get 1-2 free smites on them while continuing a lock, which is a lot more than convic does for damage. Plus most good duelers stack against it anyway so that switching to convic against them wastes time, but I think it's necessary to always have it incase they take off their stack so you can punish them for doing it (or to rape pubs lol).

In any case I use both, so it's not like I lose anything anyway. :p lc if they have crap res, rc to chainlock with it.


hum.. now that you put it that way i guess i'll have to try it and see how it works for me. altho i bet it would feel so awkward considering i always use it on the lc for obvious reasons.

i wonder though. i guess its only useful vs casters huh. i mean vs something like a barb u deff want conviction
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Jul 25 2009 11:57pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 06:51)
hum.. now that you put it that way i guess i'll have to try it and see how it works for me. altho i bet it would feel so awkward considering i always use it on the lc for obvious reasons.

i wonder though. i guess its only useful vs casters huh. i mean vs something like a barb u deff want conviction


I'd recommend trying it at least, at least if you don't like it then you've tried, you know?

I mainly do it for necs/sorcs etc yup, Barbs you're mostly on screen anyway and it's better to auralock if you got a lock on them when they're widowing off screen.

But one other char I find it really handy against are bowazons that aren't vita built, convic does lower their res but rc foh still hurts them due to low life. It also lets you cover both their weapon swaps in one namelock, if you're out of lf range and you get foh on namelock. Then you can switch from foh to smite as soon as they think it's safe to bow.
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Jul 26 2009 12:00am
Quote (Tails chao @ Sun, Jul 26 2009, 01:57am)
I'd recommend trying it at least, at least if you don't like it then you've tried, you know?

I mainly do it for necs/sorcs etc yup, Barbs you're mostly on screen anyway and it's better to auralock if you got a lock on them when they're widowing off screen.

But one other char I find it really handy against are bowazons that aren't vita built, convic does lower their res but rc foh still hurts them due to low life. It also lets you cover both their weapon swaps in one namelock, if you're out of lf range and you get foh on namelock. Then you can switch from foh to smite as soon as they think it's safe to bow.


meh. i dont even tele vs zons really (maybe one in a blue moon). what i do is i throw a conviction'd foh on them (either 1) it hits them and hurts bad or 2) they dodge it and go into animation)

if it hits them, i keep throwing foh after foh until they do the "dodge" animation which makes them stop synching. then i quickly charge in and synch smite

if i dont force them to dodge first, the good ones are tricky and will use a combination of lightning fury/bow to kill you
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Jul 26 2009 12:03am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sun, 26 Jul 2009, 07:00)
meh. i dont even tele vs zons really (maybe one in a blue moon). what i do is i throw a conviction'd foh on them (either 1) it hits them and hurts bad or 2) they dodge it and go into animation)

if it hits them, i keep throwing foh after foh until they do the "dodge" animation which makes them stop synching. then i quickly charge in and synch smite

if i dont force them to dodge first, the good ones are tricky and will use a combination of lightning fury/bow to kill you


If you just plain telesmite over and over, they'll just lf you to death. :x it's just there to make them think twice about swapping out to bow, when they know I've got a namelock from foh.

And really v/ts give zons a hard time anyway, they do a lot of damage, tank quite a bit and can make many openings against zons (like you said, foh rapes them), so it doesn't really matter if you use rc foh against them or not. It's just something to play around with, and loads of people fall for it.
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Jul 26 2009 08:11am
Quote (Tails chao @ Sun, Jul 26 2009, 02:03am)
If you just plain telesmite over and over, they'll just lf you to death. :x it's just there to make them think twice about swapping out to bow, when they know I've got a namelock from foh.

And really v/ts give zons a hard time anyway, they do a lot of damage, tank quite a bit and can make many openings against zons (like you said, foh rapes them), so it doesn't really matter if you use rc foh against them or not. It's just something to play around with, and loads of people fall for it.


yea pretty much. altho, i will deff have to try it out sometime and let you know. i'll put it on my regular aura locking key for conviction this time.
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Jul 26 2009 09:11am
"The person with better gear/ better timing/ higher level will win this duel." this tells all bout your ignorance
(v/t vs v/t)
then howcome my friend could do 50/50 with 3,6k life vt and 2,5k foh dmg vs your gosu char
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Jul 26 2009 09:22am
Quote (ShipIt @ Sun, Jul 26 2009, 11:11am)
"The person with better gear/ better timing/ higher level will win this duel." this tells all bout your ignorance
(v/t vs v/t)
then howcome my friend could do 50/50 with 3,6k life vt and 2,5k foh dmg vs your gosu char


i doubt he could... whats his name? and i'll gladly rematch him if he did. clearly you with 80% warn and 0 fg know a lot about everything dont you.
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