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Dec 17 2021 02:53pm
Quote (Exokek @ Dec 17 2021 09:49pm)
If you use eDeath to farm gold, you deserve to shatter all your corpses :ph34r:

I've done 2x Eth Balrog Blades, and it's pretty wonderful if you're the one DPSing.


Ithought ctc doesn't with WW.
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Ithought ctc doesn't with WW.


Oh I just Zerk or Frenzy normally. Never really WW'd. In that case someone else would know better.
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Oh I just Zerk or Frenzy normally. Never really WW'd. In that case someone else would know better.

IMO, WW clears travi much faster. You're also not affected by freeze when not wearing a raven which really breaks bodies. Oath and death are cheap, I'll build both and test the run times.
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IMO, WW clears travi much faster. You're also not affected by freeze when not wearing a raven which really breaks bodies. Oath and death are cheap, I'll build both and test the run times.



Death doesn’t hit WW bp

By far the best option is dual grief pb for pvm

It’s not even close.
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Death doesn’t hit WW bp

By far the best option is dual grief pb for pvm

It’s not even close.

I'm being cheap for p1. I know dual grief is gg but those are the options for me right now. Oath ettin + Death ettin hit 3ias ww bp, small crescent oath + oath ettin hit 2fpa so the last WW bp possible.

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I'm being cheap for p1. I know dual grief is gg but those are the options for me right now. Oath ettin + Death ettin hit 3ias ww bp, small crescent oath + oath ettin hit 2fpa so the last WW bp possible.



Only on weapon Ias + base ias matter for WW

There is no awsm or +ias from gear to help ww
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Only on weapon Ias + base ias matter for WW

There is no awsm or +ias from gear to help ww


So you mean I am going to hit less with the second weapon which is edeath, right?
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So you mean I am going to hit less with the second weapon which is edeath, right?



Yes. Each weapons WW ias is calculated independently of each other and only ias on the weapon and base ias of each particular weapon matter.

Each weapon needs to hit at least -34ias on each weapon.

So zerker needs at least 34 ias on each weapon.

Phase blade only needs 4ias on each weapon.

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So you mean I am going to hit less with the second weapon which is edeath, right?



It’s such a huge dps loss that the benefits of DS+CB are negated.

Not to mention ignore target defense, dmaagw to demons, - target defense (for act bosses), life and mana after kill, etc etc

Especially with how cheap Lo runes are, there really is no reason to use anything else.
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Dec 17 2021 04:27pm
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Yes. Each weapons WW ias is calculated independently of each other and only ias on the weapon and base ias of each particular weapon matter.

Each weapon needs to hit at least -34ias on each weapon.

So zerker needs at least 34 ias on each weapon.

Phase blade only needs 4ias on each weapon.

Then I am forced to go the double oath route, I guess. Ty for the info.
P.S. I never had a weapon with insufficiant ias for WW before so WW with edeath and a 50ias weapon combo is a new territory for me.
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It’s such a huge dps loss that the benefits of DS+CB are negated.

Not to mention ignore target defense, dmaagw to demons, - target defense (for act bosses), life and mana after kill, etc etc

Especially with how cheap Lo runes are, there really is no reason to use anything else.



Again, I'm heavily invested with my sorc right now. The barb will get his dual grief in time.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Dec 17 2021 04:28pm
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