Yep.
ED to Demons doesn't work on weapons as well as regular ED% Jewels. If you use them in armor, it'll work the same!

Any reason for this?

That's how D2 was coded, unsure why.
On Weapon ED and Off Weapon ED are different, and ED to Demons is ALWAYS calculated as Off Weapon ED

Unfortunate did not know that, wasted a 50 fg jewel lol

Guillames gives life leach as well. Which you are completely failing to ignore. As the more damage you do, the higher amount you leach.

Again, Guillames is one of the largest damage items in the game for pvm.

You are wrong and just don’t want to admit you are wrong.


If ED is 30% and ED to demon is 30%, the are exactly the same. Where they become different is in the weapon itself.

As enhanced damage on your weapon multiplies the damage of your weapon, and then all your other ED modifiers multiply the damage of your weapon.

To represent that statement mathematically you are looking at something like this (the numbers below are for easy math purposes):
100 base damage weapon
400% on weapon enhanced damage
1000% Armor / skills / stats enhanced damage
0% demon enhanced damage
=
(100x(1+ decimal value of weapon enhanced damage)) x (1+ decimal value of armor/skill/stats enhanced damage + demon enhanced damage))

Now if we add 30 enhanced damage on weapon, we simply add it to the decimal value of weapon enhanced damage. Which is then multiplied by everything else

But if we take 30% demon enhanced damage, no matter if it’s in weapon or other gear, you add it to the end of the formula.

You're still arguing in favor of DPS for no reason other than "because big DPS".
GFace is great for DPS. I admit as much. You're just being obtuse.
You're going to hit the 40s or 60s timer either way.

The problem at Trav past a certain point is not clearspeed, it's making sure your Merc doesn't die to random clusterfuck situations, because Trav farming isn't identical from run to run. It can be a clusterfuck.
If you're making the non-ironic argument that GFace is going to provide so much extra damage as to cover up extra LL, you're insane. Crushing Blow isn't affected by Life Leech.

The whole point is to make the runs more efficient and take less time

And with more dps, especially given the fact that Guillames makes you kill monsters quicker and because of DS+CB rolls, Guillames allows for monsters to die in 1 hit, The monsters will die quicker. A dead monster deals 0 damage.

Let me repeat that for the people in the back, a dead monster deals 0 damage.

If you are worried about your merc dying, it’s best for more monsters to be dead quicker.

Not to mention that Guillames lowers your merc’s fhr frames from 15 to 10. Which is a huge boost to his survivability, as the less amount of time he is in fhr lock, the more he is hitting a monster. Which means the faster he is killing a monster. Which means the more he is leaching from a monster. Which means the less damage he is taking from a monster because they are dead.


This isn’t complicated.

You are only arguing because you want to seem like you are right.

When you are in fact, wrong, and given terrible info.

Yes. That's why we use Gavel of Pain.
Cham'd GFace was the best helmet to use before I started using Gavel, because it took care of damage scaling all on its own.

Now that Amp Damage entered the picture, the enemies explode without even needing GFace. How much faster do you want to kill enemies? Before you even hit them?



Yes, that's the benefit of GFace. It has pseudo-IAS in the form of FHR. Same is true of the experiments I ran with a 4os of Stability (24FHR), with 15IAS jewels, trying to see what happened if you hit those higher breakpoints.
But then you're trading the built-in permanent IAS of another helmet for the pseudo-IAS in the form of FHR, and you lose out on life leech for an inconsequential DPS gain.

I will repeat this until I vomit, probably, but the bottleneck at Trav for clearspeed eventually becomes whether or not you actually hit the enemy, and how much the Merc can self-sustain, not how much you hit for.
There is functionally no difference between hitting a Fallen in Normal for 500 or 1000, or 10,000. This is essentially what you see happen at Trav past a certain gearing point.

This post was edited by Exokek on Dec 17 2021 02:44pm

A question about a barb who kills himself, mine. I sold by BOTD GPA, my barb is naked right now. I've got 2 eth 4os small crescents and a 5os ettin axe laying around. I could make double oath ettin or oath+death in ettin. With the first combo 2fpa are possible with the second one 3fpa. Which is the more damaging combo in reality, 2fpa or the mods on edeath?

If you use eDeath to farm gold, you deserve to shatter all your corpses

I've done 2x Eth Balrog Blades, and it's pretty wonderful if you're the one DPSing.