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Jul 24 2009 04:22am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, Jul 23 2009, 04:46pm)
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Jul 24 2009 09:43am
This guide is a beautiful Piece of Work.

Well organized, well laid out, detailed, and comprehensive.

10/10
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Jul 24 2009 12:03pm
Quote (mortiz @ Fri, Jul 24 2009, 09:53am)
i still rather find conviction useless for 1v1 gm and vigor essential.

it's not like the difference between normal charge and vigor charge is minimal, it's actually pretty big. you should use it everytime you use passive charge (as a means of transport/movement) and switch to fanatism before you hit.


I easily think conviction is worth it. It requires 3 points all in all to get ~ - 100%res, which is really useful in certain match ups. For instance I think conviction is what really fucks up VT vs. BvC, because the BvC loses quite a lot of AR in order to outstack conv.
But vigor is a must yeah, and I'm sure every good VT will say that
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Quote (mortiz @ Fri, Jul 24 2009, 09:53am)
i still rather find conviction useless for 1v1 gm and vigor essential.

it's not like the difference between normal charge and vigor charge is minimal, it's actually pretty big. you should use it everytime you use passive charge (as a means of transport/movement) and switch to fanatism before you hit.


its like Europe ladder 3-2 years ago when smiters had no vigor and every hammerdin desynched without it because they couldnt handle one more hotkey and were saying that it doesnt make any differnce


/e 1in conviction is needed, forces barbs to use res items

This post was edited by ShipIt on Jul 24 2009 01:50pm
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Quote (ShipIt @ Fri, Jul 24 2009, 03:29pm)
its like Europe ladder 3-2 years ago when smiters had no vigor and every hammerdin desynched without it because they couldnt handle one more hotkey and were saying that it doesnt make any differnce


/e 1in conviction is needed, forces barbs to use res items


Kind of... Putting None skills into Defensive aura would be more like a Vt vs Vt.

Put in into vigor if you're a pub pking Vt ~

imo..
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Quote (GuKoRevenge @ Fri, 24 Jul 2009, 20:53)
Kind of... Putting None skills into Defensive aura would be more like a Vt vs Vt.

Put in into vigor if you're a pub pking Vt ~

imo..


waht say?
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Jul 25 2009 12:53pm
Quote (GuKoRevenge @ Fri, Jul 24 2009, 04:53pm)
Kind of... Putting None skills into Defensive aura would be more like a Vt vs Vt.

Put in into vigor if you're a pub pking Vt ~

imo..


well in pubs, u can use a pure smiter with 8dr and still do fine lol but imo, i made my vt vs all in general and if i need to vt vs vt i can do that too. however, with the points into vigor, i will clearly have a disadvantage.

and to anyone who thinks the 5556foh damage wont hurt with tgod and stack on. they're retarded. to get that much stack to counter conviction, you are already screwing yourself over on something else. i've dueled barbs who tried that one me. still hurts them enough to make them play offensive and allow me to sit back and shift smite if they telestomp. tele away if they try clipping. and foh spam if they dont attack

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 25 2009 12:54pm
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Sat, Jul 25 2009, 06:53pm)
well in pubs, u can use a pure smiter with 8dr and still do fine lol but imo, i made my vt vs all in general and  if i need to vt vs vt i can do that too. however, with the points into vigor, i will clearly have a disadvantage.

and to anyone who thinks the 5556foh damage wont hurt with tgod and stack on. they're retarded. to get that much stack to counter conviction, you are already screwing yourself over on something else. i've dueled barbs who tried that one me. still hurts them enough to make them play offensive and allow me to sit back and shift smite if they telestomp. tele away if they try clipping. and foh spam if they dont attack


LOL
people must be retarded if they dont have full stack,
"with the points into vigor, i will clearly have a disadvantage" -lol
"shift smit when they telestomp" - i dont need to hear more u have never in your life met a good barb
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Jul 25 2009 02:34pm
In my experience any barb that telestomps a well geared smiter or vt isn't good
and doesn't know his class. The point is to use foh to force the barb into doing something
dumb like a telestomp. If you don't get this you probably don't understand how a vt works.

pts in vigor is disputed in many cases but I agree with azn not necessary.

and next time maybe find less flaming way to criticize his guide?
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