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Dec 17 2021 01:34pm
Quote (Exokek @ Dec 17 2021 01:29pm)

Why am I even having to argue this.


Because he has to get his post count up somehow. I wouldn't recommend dropping down to the level of someone that ends every counterpoint with an insult.
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Dec 17 2021 01:40pm
Not to mention that at your MF levels, you can drop at least 1x Ai baba for a 6x Lem weapon, thus making it even quicker to cap while easily maintaining the 250ish MF threshold.

You can even easily drop for 2x Lem swords.

There is just so much wrong with the build.




The quicker you fill gold, the less runs to cap, which means you can dump your gold quicker, means more runs, more chances at gambled items all in the same time period. All of which more than makes up for the little MF loss.
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Dec 17 2021 01:44pm
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It’s not irrelevant in the slightest.
Especially considering when using war pike, you have such low minimum damage.

Go back to d3


You're going to hit the reset timer with GFace, just like you hit the timer with other helmets.
The difference is you'll be lower on life leech while doing your run, meaning when your Merc misses & gets run over by Might/Fana or Hydra damage, they have a lower life leech cushion.

CB gets better the more HP the target has relative to your existing damage output. You already know that, though, so I don't know why I'm telling you this.

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Not to mention that at your MF levels, you can drop at least 1x Ai baba for a 6x Lem weapon, thus making it even quicker to cap while easily maintaining the 250ish MF threshold.

You can even easily drop for 2x Lem swords.

There is just so much wrong with the build.
The quicker you fill gold, the less runs to cap, which means you can dump your gold quicker, means more runs, more chances at gambled items all in the same time period. All of which more than makes up for the little MF loss.


No shit, sherlock.
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Dec 17 2021 01:45pm
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Amp & Decrep have the same effect on CB.
The problem with CB vs. Council is that you hit them so hard already you don't need to take tiny chunks of their HP away.

Taking 1/4th (minions) or 1/8th (Super Uniques) of a 9-20k pool assuming you're CBing exactly when they have max HP is so irrelevant when you're smacking them in the face for 10k.

Why am I even having to argue this.

You use CB to kill Fallen in the Blood Moor, too?



Assuming 20k Health pool and Amp, guillames 35%CB does an average of 1312 damage on first hit. That average is assuming 65% of the time it does 0 damage.

When it actually goes off, guillames does 3750 damage.


This doesn’t even factor in the 15% deadly strike.



Guillames is one of the single largest damage sources for pvm in the game. Especially when you consider that the helm slot in general, across all builds, is not typically a source of damage.
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Dec 17 2021 01:46pm
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Assuming 20k Health pool and Amp, guillames 35%CB does an average of 1312 damage on first hit. That average is assuming 65% of the time it does 0 damage.

When it actually goes off, guillames does 3750 damage.

This doesn’t even factor in the 15% deadly strike
Guillames is one of the single largest damage sources for pvm in the game. Especially when you consider that the helm slot in general, across all builds, is not typically a source of damage.


Yes, GFace is great to deal damage.
But the whole point of the build is to fight enemies with low HP pools while maintaining high upfront damage, thus having no use for CB.

You're just fucking with me right now, just refusing to contextualize.

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You're going to hit the reset timer with GFace, just like you hit the timer with other helmets.
The difference is you'll be lower on life leech while doing your run, meaning when your Merc misses & gets run over by Might/Fana or Hydra damage, they have a lower life leech cushion.

CB gets better the more HP the target has relative to your existing damage output. You already know that, though, so I don't know why I'm telling you this.



No shit, sherlock.



Dead monsters deal 0 damage.

Using ebotd you already have 15% ll before hell penalty, which is plenty.

Again you are way overvaluing, life leach



And I’m not even accounting for Guillames 30fhr, which lowers your fhr frames from 15 to 10. Which is going to help your dps even more
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Dec 17 2021 01:51pm
Quote (Exokek @ Dec 17 2021 01:46pm)
Yes, GFace is great to deal damage.
But the whole point of the build is to fight enemies with low HP pools while maintaining high upfront damage, thus having no use for CB.

You're just fucking with me right now, just refusing to contextualize.



You have refused valid criticism for 56 pages. You didn’t magically come up with a good way to gold find. This has been mathed to death for 20 years.

You made a shit build and positioned it as gospel to people that don’t know any better. And now you have an inflated ego because idiots said omg good build ty so much.

When in fact it’s not a good build.
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Dec 17 2021 01:55pm
Quote (Overpriced @ Dec 17 2021 01:51pm)
You have refused valid criticism for 56 pages. You didn’t magically come up with a good way to gold find. This has been mathed to death for 20 years.

You made a shit build and positioned it as gospel to people that don’t know any better. And now you have an inflated ego because idiots said omg good build ty so much.

When in fact it’s not a good build.



Guillames helps even more vs the regular monsters as CB does 1/4th of their life + an extra 50% damage from them being ampd, based on your build. Thus making you easily able to 1 hit kill them, especially considering with Guillames you have 15% deadly strike.


Guillames will speed up your runs substantionally, along with switching at least 1 blade of Ali baba to a 6x Lem weapon.

6x Lem weapon is even more valuable on d2r as you won’t have many high level barbs for the mf per level / gold find per level of Ali baba.

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Dec 17 2021 01:56pm
Quote (Overpriced @ 17 Dec 2021 14:51)
You have refused valid criticism for 56 pages. You didn’t magically come up with a good way to gold find. This has been mathed to death for 20 years.

You made a shit build and positioned it as gospel to people that don’t know any better. And now you have an inflated ego because idiots said omg good build ty so much.
When in fact it’s not a good build.


Mate, I ran the cookie cutter Cham'd GFace or CoT builds with a pre-1.08 geared Barb for over a year. Give me a break.
They work absolutely fine, they're just not optimal for this one, particular, specific farm.

Wanna run GFace for your all-purpose farm build, or for boss killing? Go ahead.

Bringing GFace once you're past a certain level of gear at Travincal is borderline silly. I even specifically include GFace in the low level Hell farm build, because the DPS/Strength won't be high enough for proper gearing.
You either lose out on resists and you end up having to Leap around like a clown to keep your Merc safe, or you lose out on Life leech. Or both.

GFace is great in pretty much all PvM where the HP pools can be high. At Trav, it's fine at low gear levels.
It's just completely unnecessary past a certain point, and you're best served with more Resists, Life Leech & Jab IAS breakpoints.

This post was edited by Exokek on Dec 17 2021 01:56pm
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So exo, do you know if there is a difference between Ed to demon and regular Ed on jewel?

Or is it a straight upgrade due to the extra ar

This post was edited by xbankx1 on Dec 17 2021 01:57pm
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