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Jul 23 2009 09:46am
Quote (Firm @ Thu, Jul 23 2009, 10:07am)
100% Agree with you here, another amazing guide Bui! :)


thanks buddy
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Jul 23 2009 01:54pm
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eh i found vigor isnt really needed and ends up being a waste of valuable points that could have been placed somewhere else

sure, its nice to have, but at the cost of having weaker smite or something, its not worth it. plus... wheres no situation where its really a MUST HAVE skill


adds charge dmg and helps ya synch with style. i find it essential.

regarding the guide it's a pretty common sense character, but definitely beneficial to people starting out. good job.

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adds charge dmg and helps ya synch with style. i find it essential.


yea i guess, but most of the time, i synch smite (aka i charge close in their face and smite). the only time i would actually charge non stop to get a kill is vs like a sorc. and meh, i dont feel its needed even vs those guys.

agree that its very nice to have to synch better, but tell me. when can you not synch with charge alone? and when would u actually NEED it to win a duel.

it can make life easier, yes, but when it comes down to vs vt vs, you are 3 points short of the other guy. and if both players are good, they will come out on top. i'd rather just kill stuff without vigor and do well in vt vs vt, then have it and do less good.

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Jul 23 2009 02:01pm
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yea i guess, but most of the time, i synch smite (aka i charge close in their face and smite). the only time i would actually charge non stop to get a kill is vs like a sorc. and meh, i dont feel its needed even vs those guys.

agree that its very nice to have to synch better, but tell me. when can you not synch with charge alone? and when would u actually NEED it to win a duel.

it can make life easier, yes, but when it comes down to vs vt vs, you are 3 points short of the other guy. and if both players are good, they will come out on top. i'd rather just kill stuff without vigor and do well in vt vs vt, then have it and do less good.


it's definitely not necessary vs every char, but since i've done it for so long it's a preference over practicality.

i find it helps vs characters that have chain-locked me.

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Jul 23 2009 02:18pm
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it's definitely not necessary vs every char, but since i've done it for so long it's a preference over practicality.

i find it helps vs characters that have chain-locked me.


true. but then again who dares to stomp a smiter lol... even hdins who stomp smiters get raped.

and for other classes, if they're namelocking you (other than a sin) they are standing still and you can either attack them back with like telesmite or normal charge allows you to escape stun and stuff to run away

so in the end it comes down to 1) being nice to have vs 2) the loss of 3 points into smite which can affect vt vs vt duels... i say its not worth it

btw, most of the time i charge around with holy freeze on to slow people down so when i get in their face, its hard for them to escape me

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Jul 23 2009 02:26pm
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true. but then again who dares to stomp a smiter lol... even hdins who stomp smiters get raped.

and for other classes, if they're namelocking you (other than a sin) they are standing still and you can either attack them back with like telesmite or normal charge allows you to escape stun and stuff to run away

so in the end it comes down to 1) being nice to have vs 2) the loss of 3 points into smite which can affect vt vs vt duels... i say its not worth it

btw, most of the time i charge around with holy freeze on to slow people down so when i get in their face, its hard for them to escape me


ya holy freeze ftw. i flash both vigor and hf depending on who i'm dueling.

what's your acct on the cool realm btw? do you gm 4v4 a lot? pm me. i might get on tonight.

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ya holy freeze ftw. i flash both vigor and hf depending on who i'm dueling.

what's your acct on the cool realm btw? do you gm 4v4 a lot?


honestly i stopped playing d2pk for the longest time because everyone there was a cocky bastard and trash talker lol. also after i found out mark phyzer used hacked scs... it kinda just threw me off interest you know?

i do sign on for 4v4s once in a while, but i dont have a "team" like i would on east. just fun 4v4s (which i use my sin). but i DO have a vt on there thats fully geared like my east one if you are up for some fun duels lol

my account on east and d2pk are both: azn_mastabui

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Jul 23 2009 02:41pm
Best Guid Out, Got some nice switch set ups
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Best Guid Out, Got some nice switch set ups


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Jul 24 2009 03:53am
i still rather find conviction useless for 1v1 gm and vigor essential.

it's not like the difference between normal charge and vigor charge is minimal, it's actually pretty big. you should use it everytime you use passive charge (as a means of transport/movement) and switch to fanatism before you hit.
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