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Aug 5 2008 02:05pm
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Tue, Aug 5 2008, 11:54am)
1. no, barbs can not hit 12.5 times per second. it is impossible. period. if you had any clue of game mechanics you'd know this. you don't. shit @ theorycraft and shit @ playing. poor lol
2. with your flawed logic rends>dracs ^^^^
3. you're retarded
4. you know nothing of barbs
5. sad attempt to get 1.5 damage>451 with %ed, amp & res theorycraft. failed, for reason see #1 ^^
6. i know you're shit and only duel kids on your own mediocre level but next time tell them to start moving instead of standing there tanking barbs ^^
7. when you start dueling competent people who don't get paralyzed in fear in sight of barbs and actually put up a fight you'll notice how effective poison can be. until then eat a dick. cya

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1) whirlwind attacks with both weapons every 4 frames, so yes it's possible just very difficult to perform perfect whirls like that. realistically, owing to AR and missed whirls, i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents. it doesn't really make a difference, 3 max is still going to be better since it comes with AR (and life, too, if you're comparing 3/20/20s to 451s)
2) how does THAT follow? rends requires loads of strength which means less life whereas dracs have strength which saves you life, and OW is much better than shitty poison.
3) wow, what does that make YOU?
4) I don't know a lot, true, i don't play barbs. I know a fair amount about ww though, which is why i know that poison charms, at least 451's, are a terrible idea.
5) do you really --really-- want to say that 451 > 3/20/20? if you're serious, i'll actually go to the trouble to show some math to show you how you're full of shit, if it'll make you go away.
6) a good triwhirl can get enough hits to make 3/20/20 > 451 pretty easily, they don't need to be standing still. 12.5 aps is just a base number, obviously you'll never actually get that many. see #1.
7) see #5.
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Aug 5 2008 02:12pm
i want to try that theorycrafting too
lets try:

1 str = 1% ed or something

omg 1% ed = bla bla after ed% +dmg blabla = at least 445874% ed

wtf 445874% ed or 1 vita zomg

full str sin is best then (well at least in my calculator)
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Aug 5 2008 02:16pm
Quote (Pari @ Tue, Aug 5 2008, 12:12pm)
i want to try that theorycrafting too
lets try:

1 str = 1% ed or something

omg 1% ed = bla bla after ed% +dmg blabla = at least 445874% ed

wtf 445874% ed or 1 vita zomg

full str sin is best then (well at least in my calculator)


i'm sorry that basic math is so hard for you sad.gif

This post was edited by darcanegel on Aug 5 2008 02:18pm
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Quote (Pari @ Tue, Aug 5 2008, 08:12pm)
i want to try that theorycrafting too
lets try:

1 str = 1% ed or something

omg 1% ed = bla bla after ed% +dmg blabla = at least 445874% ed

wtf 445874% ed or 1 vita zomg

full str sin is best then (well at least in my calculator)


You're trying to be sarcastic but just coming off kinda stupid. Sorry.
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Quote (Ziecheik @ Tue, 5 Aug 2008, 22:17)
You're trying to be sarcastic but just coming off kinda stupid. Sorry.


ok dude
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Quote (darcanegel @ Tue, Aug 5 2008, 08:05pm)
1) whirlwind attacks with both weapons every 4 frames, so yes it's possible just very difficult to perform perfect whirls like that.  realistically, owing to AR and missed whirls, i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents.  it doesn't really make a difference, 3 max is still going to be better since it comes with AR (and life, too, if you're comparing 3/20/20s to 451s)
2) how does THAT follow?  rends requires loads of strength which means less life whereas dracs have strength which saves you life, and OW is much better than shitty poison.
3) wow, what does that make YOU?
4) I don't know a lot, true, i don't play barbs.  I know a fair amount about ww though, which is why i know that poison charms, at least 451's, are a terrible idea.
5) do you really --really-- want to say that 451 > 3/20/20?  if you're serious, i'll actually go to the trouble to show some math to show you how you're full of shit, if it'll make you go away.
6) a good triwhirl can get enough hits to make 3/20/20 > 451 pretty easily, they don't need to be standing still.  12.5 aps is just a base number, obviously you'll never actually get that many.  see #1.
7) see #5.


clueless lol. let the mouth feeding commence;

1. you do not get 12 hitchecks in a single whirl

2. there is a 4 frame pause between whirls

3. you will lose out on some frames since it is impossible to stop exactly after a hitcheck

WOWOWOW FUTILE THEORYCRAFTING FAILED ALREADY LOLOLOL NEVER TALK AGAIN WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THE GAME HAEHEAHEAHEAH

as for the rest, you're a sensitive seeing impaired iq<nigger loser whose barb knowledge is limited to dumbass theories based on duels vs mediocre kids with a mediocre trapper ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPuaFSn0ow ).

you don't even know how to shortwhirl with a barb and top anything escapes easier than i piss all over your non-existant ww knowledge. this isn't rocket science captain obvious, of fucking course it doesn't matter vs you, your nigger friends or other pubs but in high level 1v1s there is a time and a place for poison scs. end of discussion.




PS. THEORY OF THE YEAR AWARD GZ
i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents
i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents
i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents
i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents
i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents
i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents
i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents


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btw you _do_ know that only primary weapon attacks at the 4:th ww frame right? ^^^^^^^^
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btw you _do_ know that only primary weapon attacks at the 4:th ww frame right? ^^^^^^^^


yeah, i do now that much. in fact, that might even be on the arreat summit, it's pretty common knowledge.

my #s are just approximations, which is the only way to DO any kind of comparison...if you think my numbers are innacurate, go ahead, but honestly i don't care because i don't play barbs much.

and WHY do you keep posting that video? that's not even ME in that video. i don't think anyone who's posted on this thread has actually ever dueled my assassin (Heretic, which is not the name in the video...speaking of bad eyesight sleep.gif...btw, i have 20/15 vision so yeah...)

btw...

451 poison damage
/6 = 75 poison damage
/4 = 19 poison damage over 11 seconds

bfd.

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Quote (darcanegel @ Tue, Aug 5 2008, 10:05pm)
yeah, i do now that much. in fact, that might even be on the arreat summit, it's pretty common knowledge.

my #s are just approximations, which is the only way to DO any kind of comparison...if you think my numbers are innacurate, go ahead, but honestly i don't care because i don't play barbs much.

and WHY do you keep posting that video? that's not even ME in that video. i don't think anyone who's posted on this thread has actually ever dueled my assassin (Heretic, which is not the name in the video...speaking of bad eyesight sleep.gif...btw, i have 20/15 vision so yeah...)

btw...

451 poison damage
/6 = 75 poison damage
/4 = 19 poison damage over 11 seconds

bfd.


wow you study arreat summit 24/7 but dont even know of the -100% PLR penalty in hell, self rapé too ez man lol ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPuaFSn0ow

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Quote (darcanegel @ Tue, Aug 5 2008, 08:05pm)
1) whirlwind attacks with both weapons every 4 frames, so yes it's possible just very difficult to perform perfect whirls like that. realistically, owing to AR and missed whirls, i'd say you could maybe hit 8 times per second against non-block casters pretty easily, 2 times per second against maxblock casters, and 1 time per second against high-defense maxblock opponents. it doesn't really make a difference, 3 max is still going to be better since it comes with AR (and life, too, if you're comparing 3/20/20s to 451s)
2) how does THAT follow? rends requires loads of strength which means less life whereas dracs have strength which saves you life, and OW is much better than shitty poison.
3) wow, what does that make YOU?
4) I don't know a lot, true, i don't play barbs. I know a fair amount about ww though, which is why i know that poison charms, at least 451's, are a terrible idea.
5) do you really --really-- want to say that 451 > 3/20/20? if you're serious, i'll actually go to the trouble to show some math to show you how you're full of shit, if it'll make you go away.
6) a good triwhirl can get enough hits to make 3/20/20 > 451 pretty easily, they don't need to be standing still. 12.5 aps is just a base number, obviously you'll never actually get that many. see #1.
7) see #5.


I can tele smite on a barb with 30k ar 4 times and kill him without touching me...
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