"taking down the rest of bnet rage rage" then getting telesmited 10-0 = ahahahhahahahahhahaha

after your ridiculously clueless blabbering it doesn't come as a surprise to anyone that you never saw a good player until you got fucking humiliated and departed in shame

Get any tele smiter, ANY on east and i mean ANY, and its either gonna be me winning or me losing by a hair. If he bms, then that just proves im > him. And bm doesnt always work. Ive owned some of the best barbs on east who used doomz or smiters who use hf, so please know what ur talking about b4 u post this meaningless shit.Get any tele smiter, ANY on east and i mean ANY, and its either gonna be me winning or me losing by a hair. If he bms, then that just proves im > him. And bm doesnt always work. Ive owned some of the best barbs on east who used doomz or smiters who use hf, so please know what ur talking about b4 u post this meaningless shit.Get any tele smiter, ANY on east and i mean ANY, and its either gonna be me winning or me losing by a hair. If he bms, then that just proves im > him. And bm doesnt always work. Ive owned some of the best barbs on east who used doomz or smiters who use hf, so please know what ur talking about b4 u post this meaningless shit.Get any tele smiter, ANY on east and i mean ANY, and its either gonna be me winning or me losing by a hair. If he bms, then that just proves im > him. And bm doesnt always work. Ive owned some of the best barbs on east who used doomz or smiters who use hf, so please know what ur talking about b4 u post this meaningless shit.

lmfao those "best barbs" must be as good as the ANY telesmiters who you beat with your 2k life wiz spike shit joke haehaehaeheahhaehaeheaheahheahaehaeheah

Rasheeda is too Far ~Future to be Understood by the Rest ! ...

The future obviously doesn't look too bright -,-

aNd yOU're A FuCKing RetARd whO sUcK AsS At ThIS gAME Just LiKE ThE reSt oF tHE LosErS cRyiNG. you also write like a pig

Few things to clear up here. It wasnt 10-0. It was like 8-3, and thats including 3 losses where, 2 he used hf and had to clear up hf was bm, and 1 duel where he foh'd like 20 times with low enough foh dmg to deal dmg to me before i put res on because i was expecting a 24/7 tele smite as i was told, not foh. I have no hard feelings after losing to him because i know hes a good person and we were friendly after the fact and did some ZvZ for fun. Secondly, i know hes one of the better tele smiters around, and he knows how to duel with them, because he knows when to make me lose nl and when not to. Many tele smiters ive faced expected me to not tank alot and just go in for the kill then end up dying. And barbs are incredibly easy, expecially if they are dual wield and dont bm. If they use doomz, it just makes it a little harder to kill. Barbs who use shields will tank more against me, but they will also have alot less chance of hitting + do less dmg = i tank more as well. So in general a shield barb will die as well, it will just take longer. Also i dont have a tele zon, i have a vita zon, a telezon such as sorrows, would be much harder to land a smite on because of its mobility, but doesnt mean his zon is invincible. Also on a final note... if someone can only take down my zon with of its greatest weaknesses and wont face me with any other char, whats stopping me from taking my hammer and kicking the shit out of that persons smiter? If he can only duel with my weakness, i should be able to do the same against him.

This post was edited by Mattd90 on Oct 20 2008 01:37pm

wow a post without hostility.

plain old vita zons are obviously better, i think everyone agrees on that. still don't see how you find the best barbs increadibly easy, zon vs grief/beast barb is 50/50 at worst for barb in my book. things that fuck up shieldless barbs royally are 1) lag and 2) dork rare javs+knockback+lag. don't know if you prebuf or run around with cta 24/7 but prebuffers can't really cry about doom/slow either. and besides that stuff isn't considered bm over here anyway (neither is amp+tap on zons though).

you can't expect to get lucky and hit a barb before he's on your screen and then it's just cat-and-mouse which a good locker or a someone that can read desynch should win most of the time. from your posts i get the impression that barbs rarely even land hits on you, i could buy that you win most series of duels vs most barbs but not that they aren't a threat. would be interesting to hear your version of zon vs top east barb/wwsin and even more interesting if someone could get their thumb out their ass and duel you with those chars

I've beaten most of the top wwsins on east with my build presented here. In some cases 2 or 3 vs me (all friends).




More than mobility, some of the most skilled [telly] smiters on east frequently told me that the valkyrie I summon takes 90% of the hits thrown, probably due to the fact that after I telly the namelocks remain synonymous for a split second as they do with necros and their summons. Telly-walking with sufficient r/w speed also often prevents a a telly smite from landing. Speed and mobility combined with a little experience thwart 8/10 attacks, then you factor in dodges and missed hits.

I have died 5-0 once, to a guy who was incredibly skilled + mods: using slow (from an 08 that affected opponents more severely), hf, hammers, charge, smite --- all in combination with auto-aim/gmod (tmc). I know this because he told me, and it was my own curiosity to test it out.




The future is always bright. As in I rarely play this game anymore, that's pretty bright




Truely




Funny, several of your friends have been incredibly successful with variants, whereas you, yourself, made a jab/valk zon.

Perhaps on d2pk they are.




But does not greatly limit the number of bmanas allowed for use. Funny how things work, huh?

175/20's do not exist on d2pk. Funny how things work, huh?

The restricted amount of psn charms for use was adapted from amapk and placed into general gm rules. The rule no longer applies to other classes, but is still considered bm vs other amazon opponents. To stretch the rule to encompass all other classes of character vs amazon is dim-witted (or incredibly smart) depending on the way you look at things.




You can use titans on a telyporting amazon,I prefer not to. Unless you tmc for the needed fcr, it is not worth it.

lvl 11 critical + zon skill items = more than enough critical for me. Around 72-73% last I checked.
lvl 16 ga + zon skill items = higher lvl ga than a glass zon.

nn nigma? Clearly a failure of reading capabilities.

lvl 20 valk IS optional, however I prefer it.

377 psn sc < 100 psn sc < 451 psn sc < 175* psn sc. Furthermore, I would suggest you research your psn damages and timers more closely. The 175 psn small charm is superior to all others.

And I'm sorry about your zon's damage. remove the 3x 377's and replace with plain passive. You're simply wasting valuable space with them.

no, i died twice. i thought you were a telezon and you didn't expect me to be using slow/foh. the 8 consecutive duels were after all of that had stopped.

my intention wasn't to duel you with an advantage, i was retaliating to your smiter comment. throwing things like "barbs are incredibly easy" just makes the few duelers who read this section want to duel you.

This post was edited by marvel. on Oct 20 2008 05:47pm

The way i own most is from the skills. I dont prebuff, against barbs or any char i need block, i take off my bo spirit and swap on ss, and i get 65+ block and max dr. I own the best barbs on east is because i am friends with the best on east or have friends who are friends with the best and duel them alot that way. That experience lead me to know how to duel them. If u want to know how i duel exactly, its simple. I spam in their direction til they get close, when they get within tele range, i have ss out and wait for them to tele on me then i run perpendicular to where they ww'd and nl them until they are done with their ww. If they get stun locked from kb, i keep spamming, if they tele out of my spam, i switch to my SS and repeat. For those ww chars that manage to be great at chainlocking + tri ww, i do the same thing, its just more difficult to survive more of those attacks like it is against those who cant tri ww. As for ww sins, i actually do own most of the wwsins on east with the exception of some of the best. The best ww sins + best kickers are the kind of chars that i usually die consistently too, but as i said before, i never die 5-0 or w/e, i always manage to get kills in, whether or not i win the duel.



I never said smites, let alone tele smiters were easy =/, i mainly made the fact that they were alot easier than when i first started dueling them on my zon. I just said i never die in a match like 5-0, as i proved. As for barbs i will stick to my word and say a majority are incredibly easy. The only ones that pose me any challenge are indeed the best on east i either am friends with or duel with alot. In most cases, but not ever, i usually come out victorious against ww barbs unless they mass bm which usually isnt the case short of gay pub games.

This post was edited by Mattd90 on Oct 20 2008 07:53pm

Another free Up by me ! =)