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what would you suggest to put in the diadem if i dont need +ias or +dr?

2* jah?
2* 40ias/15max?
2* xxx/20life?
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Quote (Cool-T @ Aug 18 2011 08:58am)
what would you suggest to put in the diadem if i dont need +ias or +dr?

2* jah?
2* 40ias/15max?
2* xxx/20life?


don't put anything in it you fucking tradespawn
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Aug 18 2011 07:01am
Quote (Cool-T @ Aug 18 2011 08:58am)
what would you suggest to put in the diadem if i dont need +ias or +dr?

2* jah?
2* 40ias/15max?
2* xxx/20life?


30ED/60AR/9Str/9Dex Jewel

(btw if ur curious 9str or 9dex adds more damage than a 10max damage jewel in helm so even if u dont need the stats, do it - ps if u had to pick between one of the 2, go w/ dex)

Jah is cute, but damage > minor life boost from jah...

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 18 2011 07:01am
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Aug 18 2011 07:04am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 18 Aug 2011 13:34)
its only best for sin v sin

overall play u will need a fools

and IF you can manage to find that cruels 300ed eth repair warfist claw... the best build would be vis helm + gores route as opposed to my gface + dancers route (as it provides more "even" ar for both claws)



3.9k for a ghost sin is kinda low to be honest, where did u stray from the original guide? try to aim for 4k-4.3k for chaos side (normal claw builds have 3+ venom more than gclaw build so thats a lil extra damage there).... zod bug gclaw adds a lil extra but meh... my current sin does 4.6k chaos side


Who said you can't get fools on a War Fist?...
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Quote (Tails chao @ Aug 18 2011 09:04am)
Who said you can't get fools on a War Fist?...


u could... but what are the chances of getting a warfist w/

eth repair
280-300ed
fools
2soc
40ias

prob slim to none.... better off sticking w/ a good feral fools + gclaw and then using the warfist cruels or some other hard hitting claw for gvg (better overall average damage)

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Quote (Azn Masta @ Aug 18 2011 03:01pm)
30ED/60AR/9Str/9Dex Jewel

(btw if ur curious 9str or 9dex adds more damage than a 10max damage jewel in helm so even if u dont need the stats, do it -  ps if u had to pick between one of the 2, go w/ dex)

Jah is cute, but damage > minor life boost from jah...


ok, thanks :)
even if i already dont need any str or dex?
i got full vitality statwise

and does that mean that my 2 assa 9 fcr 26 str 18 dex 30 life beats highlords on some cases ^^?
and last question: is 30 ias fools 250 ed feral with knockback useful in any setup?

Quote (SPresley23 @ Aug 18 2011 02:59pm)
don't put anything in it you fucking tradespawn


valid point
just want to start pvping, so i can actually play the game instead of trading ;)

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Quote (Azn Masta @ 18 Aug 2011 14:05)
u could... but what are the chances of getting a warfist w/

eth repair
280-300ed
fools
2soc
40ias

prob slim to none.... better off sticking w/ a good feral fools + gclaw


Quote (Tails chao @ 18 Aug 2011 13:24)
40 ias war fist rare claw+runic chaos is best technically, highest damage primary hit possible and you can wsg freely. Only disadvantage is the claw required is so damn rare.

@Monster: War fist+Feral wsm bugged is a crap set-up for most duels, simply because the primary claw is a weak-ass feral chaos which means your damage output is really mediocre while whirling. I guess it's good for duels where you rely on long whirls a lot, though.



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Quote (Cool-T @ Aug 18 2011 09:06am)
ok, thanks :)
even if i already dont need any str or dex?
i got full vitality statwise

and does that mean that my 2 assa 9 fcr 26 str 18 dex 30 life beats highlords on some cases ^^?
and last question: is 30 ias fools 250 ed feral with knockbackuseful in any setup?



valid point
just want to start pvping, so i can actually play the game instead of trading ;)


no cuz u cant beat the 1skill (boost ww and all sin skills) + 20ias + 37% DS......

NO ammy up to this point is able to beat that... not even something like a 2sin/20fcr/30str/60life/120AR/Res amulet

the claw is nice, but kb is optional, its good vs pallies, but in the hands of a rookie, it can mess u up more than help u since it will throw your opponents all over the place and mess up ur dod if ur not careful


Quote (Tails chao @ Aug 18 2011 09:06am)
^^


true... but in the end, u still need gchaos for gvg anyways... and btw in gvg, fuck the slower trap frames (yea sure it helps, but if u can rock a gchaos + d2pk style cruels claw w/ 65fcr blah blah aint nothing gonna be able to kill ur ghost) o wait... thats what drakemillers did vs me O.o except he had an import helm on top of that

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Quote (Azn Masta @ 18 Aug 2011 14:08)
no cuz u cant beat the 1skill (boost ww and all sin skills) + 20ias + 37% DS......

NO ammy up to this point is able to beat that... not even something like a 2sin/20fcr/30str/60life/120AR/Res amulet

the claw is nice, but kb is optional, its good vs pallies, but in the hands of a rookie, it can mess u up more than help u since it will throw your opponents all over the place and mess up ur dod if ur not careful




true... but in the end, u still need gchaos for gvg anyways... and btw in gvg, fuck the slower trap frames (yea sure it helps, but if u can rock a gchaos + d2pk style cruels claw w/ 65fcr blah blah aint nothing gonna be able to kill ur ghost)


Yeah I agree lol

On pd for gvg I use a 1200 def vis helm (ber/melee jewel), eth wf/zbug suwayyah and up'd gores. It's a lot slower but if you're smart then you can just trade hits and win (sadly...)
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Quote (Tails chao @ Aug 18 2011 09:13am)
Yeah I agree lol

On pd for gvg I use a 1200 def vis helm (ber/melee jewel), eth wf/zbug suwayyah and up'd gores. It's a lot slower but if you're smart then you can just trade hits and win (sadly...)


yea.... the high def forces other people to use more AR to hit u, which most of the time makes it impossible for them to rock a cruels claw at the same time (since high ar comes from vis + fools) so that lets u out ww them. i personally use a wyrmhide enigma which is the highest def armor i can wear with my str minus enigma + helm (i have 85 and wyrmhide is 84req)

IF i ever manage to get a good enough cruels claw i'd be able to switch from g-face + dancers build to a vis circlet (24/7) + gores build and rock an AP enigma, but i've been playing my ghost for 5+ years - never seen a cruels THAT good yet besides drakesmillers'

its a very smart theory, but i've never seen anyone who can pull it off since the items needed are so insanely rare (not even lewt has em)... unless u import or play pd -_-

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