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#521
Mar 21 2012 05:28pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 22 2012 12:26am)
http://arxiv.org/abs/1203.3433
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/science/einstein-proved-right-in-retest-of-neutrinos-speed.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17364682


read the article yourself

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Later this month, they will all be undertaking independent measurements to finally put an end to speculation about neutrino speeds.


Obviously they are doing this as its been 100% proven eh ?

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#522
Mar 21 2012 05:29pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 21 2012 07:28pm)
read the article yourself



Obviously they are doing this as its been 100% proven eh ?


True, but it's the more likely option.

But nothing has ever been 100% proven. Just made more or less reasonable to believe.

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#523
Mar 21 2012 05:31pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 22 2012 12:29am)
True, but it's the more likely option.


your completely missing the point, now that you've seen it wasn't 100% proven, you accept that the theory COULD be wrong. That was the point of the analogy, your basing your results on some theory that could be wrong, I'm basing mine on empirical evidence.
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#524
Mar 21 2012 05:33pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 21 2012 07:31pm)
your completely missing the point, now that you've seen it wasn't 100% proven, you accept that the theory COULD be wrong. That was the point of the analogy, your basing your results on some theory that could be wrong, I'm basing mine on empirical evidence.


I'm basing mine on empirical evidence. That's what most theories are, ideas that are based in empirical evidence. Quantum physics would have never come about if it weren't for the double-slit experiment.
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Mar 21 2012 05:34pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 22 2012 12:33am)
I'm basing mine on empirical evidence. That's what most theories are, ideas that are based in empirical evidence. Quantum physics would have never come about if it weren't for the double-slit experiment.


where's your empirical evidence?
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#526
Mar 21 2012 05:35pm
Quote (MoXeR @ Mar 21 2012 03:43pm)
guys
tell me the exact items + sks and i build the 2 barbs 100% perfect in hero editor and then let them fight each other ft 100
i would be available for that

tell me the exact build + tree + additional conditions that you want in the test (like lower def or w/e)


#1 barb needs to have GriefZ/BeastZ
#2 barb needs to have EDC/BeastZ

Both barbs should wear a generalized gear outfit:
* Arreats
* Enigma
* Arach
* Trang Gloves
* Gore Rider (on the GriefZ barb) and then War Trav (on the EDC barb)
* Highlord's
* Raven Frost
* FCR Ring
* Inv of 9x 10 max GCs & 5all res/20 life SCs

Both barbs need low STR, high Vita builds (to simulate real pvp BvCers)
Max WW and Max Axe Mastery

This would make for a good test




I'll keep looking tonight for someone on East NL who has an EDC to help me run this test myself
But it is proving to be a problem to even find a Perfect EDC to begin with

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#527
Mar 21 2012 05:36pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Mar 22 2012 12:35am)
#1 barb needs to have GriefZ/BeastZ
#2 barb needs to have EDC/BeastZ

Both barbs should wear a generalized gear outfit:
* Arreats
* Enigma
* Arach
* Trang Gloves
* Gore Rider (on the GriefZ barb) and then War Trav (on the EDC barb)
* Highlord's
* Raven Frost
* FCR Ring
* Inv of 9x 10 max GCs & 5all res/20 life SCs

Both barbs need low STR, high Vita builds (to simulate real pvp BcVers)
Max WW and Max Axe Mastery

This would make for a good test


I'd rather u do the test, when his reslts show that EDC does more damage, your going to question his legitimacy. I'd rather you do it so you will be left in no doubts about the result.
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#528
Mar 21 2012 05:50pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Mar 21 2012 07:35pm)
#1 barb needs to have GriefZ/BeastZ
#2 barb needs to have EDC/BeastZ

Both barbs should wear a generalized gear outfit:
* Arreats
* Enigma
* Arach
* Trang Gloves
* Gore Rider (on the GriefZ barb) and then War Trav (on the EDC barb)
* Highlord's
* Raven Frost
* FCR Ring
* Inv of 9x 10 max GCs & 5all res/20 life SCs

Both barbs need low STR, high Vita builds (to simulate real pvp BvCers)
Max WW and Max Axe Mastery

This would make for a good test




I'll keep looking tonight for someone on East NL who has an EDC to help me run this test myself
But it is proving to be a problem to even find a Perfect EDC to begin with


No fcr ring I think, that's 50fcr

Unless use 2x fcr ring and verdungo's or something

Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 21 2012 07:34pm)
where's your empirical evidence?


What was it you wanted me to prove, that DS affects damage after +dmg is applied, which is why the test that guy did was bullshit?

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#529
Mar 21 2012 05:55pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 22 2012 12:50am)
No fcr ring I think, that's 50fcr

Unless use 2x fcr ring and verdungo's or something



What was it you wanted me to prove, that DS affects damage after +dmg is applied, which is why the test that guy did was bullshit?


Test the guy did was fine lol.. you just dont know how DS works.
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#530
Mar 21 2012 05:56pm
I have a barb on east/sc/nl. I suppose I could get an EDC so we could do some testing...wouldn't be perfect though.
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