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Jan 8 2009 01:37pm
Quote (Delphinine @ Thu, Jan 8 2009, 12:40am)
who cares if its bm...... n my bo will last longer then yours trust me.
ill bo once before duel starts then ill kill u and when u appear in town and have to run to blood moor to get bod ill go bo
again n when u die again ill do the same thing.... with 4.5k like trust me u wont tank more then i do...
4k fury would rape anything... u run away ill GA n with this builds life u wouldnt last 2 mins or tank shit
y would u say 4.1k dmg 4.5k life is not possible....
thats just stupid... as soon as i get home ill post ss of my zon prove to u 4.1k dmg n 4.5k life is possible lol

btw wat realm u guys from ??? dont say east please lol


And all that wall of text proves that you dont duel anyone good, or anyone outside of pubs. Real duelers in 1v1 will not let u bm, unless its strictly bm vs bm 1v1, but unfortunately only retards who cant duel gm do that.

Can you also explain to me how ur lower level bo will run out AFTER my higher level bo?

Also, with ur shitty bo, it will go out in no time. Ive been in ZvZ duels that lasted 5-10 min, i know for a fact ur bo wont last that long, and i know for a fact u dont have the skill to kill me as it sounds. So what do u do when ur bo runs out? You go to town for any reason, that = a loss. So that cancels ur theory of how to beat us. So come back again when u have something smarter to say.


Quote (tudey @ Thu, Jan 8 2009, 01:49pm)
iso answer


Answer? Its bm, just like that retard delphinine. Duel anyone who knows how to duel properly and not for pubs, and u'll be laughed out of the game. Running to the stash like that retard or having cta in ur inv might work for pubs, but if ur going to duel real people in real duels, and not just pubs, then you cant pull that off, because they wont let u.
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Quote (Mattd90 @ Thu, 8 Jan 2009, 20:37)
Answer? Its bm, just like that retard delphinine. Duel anyone who knows how to duel properly and not for pubs, and u'll be laughed out of the game. Running to the stash like that retard or having cta in ur inv might work for pubs, but if ur going to duel real people in real duels, and not just pubs, then you cant pull that off, because they wont let u.


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Jan 8 2009 01:41pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ Thu, 8 Jan 2009, 21:37)
Answer? Its bm, just like that retard delphinine. Duel anyone who knows how to duel properly and not for pubs, and u'll be laughed out of the game. Running to the stash like that retard or having cta in ur inv might work for pubs, but if ur going to duel real people in real duels, and not just pubs, then you cant pull that off, because they wont let u.


Tbh you have retarded rules if keeping cta in _INV_ is bm.
I can see why prebuffing from stash is bm. It takes a lot of time, you dont lose anything while doing it(except time)
but with cta in inv it takes maybe 2-3 secs longer to bo than with your "gm" style, also you lose scs by doing it
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Jan 8 2009 01:51pm
would like to see your attack speed xD

coa,verdungo,gmb... you'll shoot very fast ^^

This post was edited by Champo on Jan 8 2009 01:51pm
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Quote (Champo @ Thu, Jan 8 2009, 02:51pm)
would like to see your attack speed xD

coa,verdungo,gmb... you'll shoot very fast ^^


Could be used in some situations. Ive found diamond works best in most situations, but sometimes the 1k-5k dmg with 8 fpa has beaten the need for 7 fpa with 1.8k-3.5k dmg
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Jan 8 2009 03:44pm
Quote (tudey @ Thu, Jan 8 2009, 09:51am)
Why dont you just put cube in inv and put cta there? then you can bo without running to stash. You lose a bit life and damage, yes, but imo having titans or high damage javs or lacerator>that life and damage


Switching between cta and a titans or lacerator while out in the blood more and in them middle action packed duel is a great way to drop a valuable item or to get killed while switching items. But be my guest and try it, just dont come crying to me when you drop your 6/6/4 eth crystal sword cta or eth lacerator and your dueling buddy/hostiled enemy snags it. If you are concerned about blocking just use a storm shield and cta all the time and you can block just fine, no need to switch out the cta. Not to mention this would result in around 120+ life and 120+ max dmg lost.

In regards to Delphinine:
Keeping a cta in your stash is about the lamest idea. You're on foot so making it back to town is a slow process, some characters do this in pub games but they also have engima and its not a big deal plus they usually have massive + skills so their BO lasts 3+ minutes. My bo is lvl 12 and lasts just 2 minutes i believe, yours will be a lot less than this i imagine. It seems like i am constantly needing to recast BO while im out in the moor, i cant imagine having to run back to my stash, switch my javs and storm shield for a cta and spirit monarch every 1.5 to 2 minutes. And if you are using some sort of prebuff (maras, shako, enigma, 2x soj, arach) you are talking 15-20 sec to equip your gear and then another 15-20 sec to requip your fighting gear plus the time it takes to walk to and from the waypoint. By time you get back out to the moor you may only have 60 sec or less left on your BO and you would want to get back before it dies. That gives you maybe about 45 seconds of solid dueling time followed by 1+ min of prep time just for another 45 sec of dueling.

Or you can keep a cta on you switch, duel for 2 + min, take 2-3 seconds to BO and then duel for another 2 minutes

Ill let you decide

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 8 2009 04:03pm
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Jan 8 2009 04:03pm
no java on switch is just fucking fail on bowzon
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Jan 8 2009 04:07pm
Quote (Pari @ Thu, Jan 8 2009, 06:03pm)
no java on switch is just fucking fail on bowzon

For a glass cannon zon that is probably true

Not using CTA on a Vita Bowzon, or any Vita character is a fail
Keeping a cube in your stash for CTA is a fail
Running to your stash every 45 seconds to grab your CTA and recast BO is a fail

Keeping your CTA on your switch at all time is a win!

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 8 2009 04:10pm
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Jan 8 2009 04:11pm
Quote (Spartikis @ Thu, 8 Jan 2009, 23:07)
Not using CTA on a Vita Bowzon, or any Vita character is a fail
Keeping a cube in your stash for CTA is a fail
Running to your stash every 45 seconds to grab your CTA and recast BO is a fail

Keeping your CTA on your switch at all time is a win!


lighting fury is important secondary attack for a bowzon and you miss it
how do you even want to kill blockable chars

not to mention you have very slow shooting due to coa (lol?) and dungos
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Jan 8 2009 04:16pm
Quote (Spartikis @ Thu, Feb 28 2008, 11:28pm)
1) INTRODUCTION:

It is also not my intension to bash or put down other guides out there but merely to suggest that there is a different and possibly better method of building a Bow Amazon.



If you're going to claim that this is a better build than the build the best zons on east have used for years, you may want to offer some kind of proof. I am by no means the best zon on east, and never have been, but I've played against the best more times than I can count. I also ran the zon ladders here and at d trades. If I thought that the vita build was better than the balanced zvz build for zvz, I'd use it. And if I were going to make a guide, I would at least include the names of the well known zons that I have dueled/ beaten.

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