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Quote (inkanddagger @ Feb 29 2020 10:26pm)
In fury vs fury you always want to go cruel masters over cruel fools. Against barbs and paladins it gets more complicated. You'd have to know their defense, damage, life, and attack rating and then compare it against yours.

Use my spreadsheet (I'm constantly updating with new stuff): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ei2t5C4wylmY-qE8_BbiEHdIHrhxSG_oxqg971gbQFo/edit?usp=sharing

Enter attack rating stuff to tab one, damage and life stuff to tab 2, and tab 3 will tell you where you stand on average. Tab 4 is to compare weapons against each other.

If I had access to any weapon in the game, I would use a 450% ed ettin axe with 250 attack rating and two 4015ias jewels vs everyone. Barring that, check the calc.


That's interesting, first pass that I went through your sheet I don't think I made it over to the weapon comp tab. That's pretty much exactly what I was looking to figure out! And I guess I see where the ettin axe comment comes from.

I'm sure I'll run into more questions, but thanks for the explanation
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Hi guys iam thinking to make a budget pvp fury druide vs all in sc ladder . My gear thought are:

Cerebus what socked ( or jalal?)
HL
Forty Armor
Gore Riders
Bloodfist or ?
24fhr str life belt vs dungo
Botd eth ba or pb grief
SS what socked
1stat ring str ll life + 1 raven
cta+spirit
30-40life shape skiller
anni torch
sc 20life or resi or low ar/life

stash like tg resi monarch 2h weapon and so on
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Quote (Nightwalka @ Mar 10 2020 02:31am)
Hi guys iam thinking to make a budget pvp fury druide vs all in sc ladder . My gear thought are:

Cerebus what socked ( or jalal?)
HL
Forty Armor
Gore Riders
Bloodfist or ?
24fhr str life belt vs dungo
Botd eth ba or pb grief
SS what socked
1stat ring str ll life + 1 raven
cta+spirit
30-40life shape skiller
anni torch
sc 20life or resi or low ar/life

stash like tg resi monarch 2h weapon and so on


You will not beat anyone without tele
Dungo vs phys only
Ss vs phys only
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Quote (Nightwalka @ Mar 9 2020 05:31pm)
Hi guys iam thinking to make a budget pvp fury druide vs all in sc ladder . My gear thought are:

Cerebus what socked ( or jalal?)
HL
Forty Armor
Gore Riders
Bloodfist or ?
24fhr str life belt vs dungo
Botd eth ba or pb grief
SS what socked
1stat ring str ll life + 1 raven
cta+spirit
30-40life shape skiller
anni torch
sc 20life or resi or low ar/life

stash like tg resi monarch 2h weapon and so on



Vs all is tricky, because sometimes you need a shield and sometimes tomb reaver is the only thing you would want to use.

Grief is better than botdz usually, if allowed. The only issue is range of a zerk axe is longer than range of a phase blade. If you are good at shift fury, you may do better with botdz. If you tend to only use a shield against melee, ww, and bowas, you may as well use grief (again, unless you're good at shift fury clipping against ww barbs). Vs trap zons you're going to want a damage weapon on both sides so you can wsg into them.

This is actually a complicated question, and a major reaosn this is a melee vs melee guide and not vs all. I'll have to get back to it later. But you're mostly on the right track. Instead of a stat ring though you may want to be able to put on a dwarf or wisp if one source of % absorb is allowed. And you really don't need bfists. If tap is allowed, dracs are actually going to be your best glove choice. Even if it doesn't proc the open wounds will do considerable damage. Otherwise rends OR tri res stat gloves for res stacking. You only need 42 fhr at most. 86 is kind of pointless. Cerebus is good against melee but lacks resistances. Jalals is actually usable in vs all. Gface, cere, and jalals should all be in stash.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Mar 10 2020 08:06pm
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Quote (Nightwalka @ Mar 10 2020 01:31am)
Hi guys iam thinking to make a budget pvp fury druide vs all in sc ladder . My gear thought are:

Cerebus what socked ( or jalal?)
HL
Forty Armor
Gore Riders
Bloodfist or ?
24fhr str life belt vs dungo
Botd eth ba or pb grief
SS what socked
1stat ring str ll life + 1 raven
cta+spirit
30-40life shape skiller
anni torch
sc 20life or resi or low ar/life

stash like tg resi monarch 2h weapon and so on


budget pvp wolf is only usefull for townguard, it cost a lot to make it into a killing machine.
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Quote (gel87 @ Mar 11 2020 06:55am)
budget pvp wolf is only usefull for townguard, it cost a lot to make it into a killing machine.



For a budget town guard, a botd great poleaxe is perfect. Just hit the shift key and you can cover the whole town exit.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Mar 29 2020 03:54pm
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Feb 9 2020 06:58pm)
Have been working on a Melee Victory calculator for a while. Just add your stats and your opponent's stats to each tab and it will give you a win/lose ratio for melee duels:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ei2t5C4wylmY-qE8_BbiEHdIHrhxSG_oxqg971gbQFo/edit#gid=1648692021

Note that this gives an average. It doesn't mean you will definitively win a set of 6, especially if the win/lose is super close like 54% to 46%. It just means that if you were to do hundreds of duels vs. the same person that over time you will win slightly more on average. It's a good tool for tweaking life/defense/damage/attack rating to help you overcome a hump. It's not a "best of 6" set simulator by any means, although I could add that function in the future.


:thumbsup: very nice as always still one of the top guides and favorite guides i still come around to check out to see whats changed :thumbsup:
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inkans wolf in all its furious glory

https://streamable.com/vfix2g


perfected (though take with a grain of salt u wont get near the stats i have unless you're on a private server like the 1 i admin.
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Quote (Device @ Apr 6 2020 07:13pm)
inkans wolf in all its furious glory

https://streamable.com/vfix2g


perfected (though take with a grain of salt u wont get near the stats i have unless you're on a private server like the 1 i admin.



Thanks for posting that!

Would you be able to make one with a fools and a cruel seraph rod as well? Needs 70 ias total so two 40/15ias.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Apr 6 2020 09:31pm
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i can. give me a bit.
Quote (inkanddagger @ Apr 6 2020 11:28pm)
Thanks for posting that!

Would you be able to make one with a fools and a cruel seraph rod as well? Needs 70 ias total so two 40/15ias.


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