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Aug 2 2008 02:13pm
well, as i see you are too convinced of your chaos tactics while i am too convinced that chaos has no place on pure trappers.
your AR, your instant damage and your chance to inflict OW with only chaos (25% on one hand) is too low compared to what you lose to get it.

so go on using chaos, i think its useless as defensive measure against GOOD opponents (except hdin blabla) while it does work against garbage - mediocre players. so depending on your dueling environment you might want to use it, or not.
i choose not to do so for the reasons i posted like 10 times now.


also i am just as familiar with kicks from my all the sin builds i have done and it fits much better into the chainlocking/stomping pattern against casters than WW even though ww against wsg was always nice to have. kicks work hand in hand with fireblast while whirlwind requires to let go of your namelock. hellfire torch gives great advantage against WSGers as well if it goes off as it disables them to teleport as long as there is groundfire which gives you 2-3 seconds of time to do whatever you want.
thats my view, yours is the other. and im tired to discuss any further since everything that has to be said has been said and we cannot find a consensus apparently.

i just think it is very well possible that you on your part are not experienced enough with kicking and fireblasting to fully be able to comprehend my tactics, and maybe our dueling environment is too different (in whatever way).
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Aug 2 2008 02:19pm
Quote (Holocauster_Tycoon @ Sat, Aug 2 2008, 12:13pm)
well, as i see you are too convinced of your chaos tactics while i am too convinced that chaos has no place on pure trappers.
your AR, your instant damage and your chance to inflict OW with only chaos (25% on one hand) is too low compared to what you lose to get it.

so go on using chaos, i think its useless as defensive measure against GOOD opponents (except hdin blabla) while it does work against garbage - mediocre players. so depending on your dueling environment you might want to use it, or not.
i choose not to do so for the reasons i posted like 10 times now.


also i am just as familiar with kicks from my all the sin builds i have done and it fits much better into the chainlocking/stomping pattern against casters than WW even though ww against wsg was always nice to have. kicks work hand in hand with fireblast while whirlwind requires to let go of your namelock. hellfire torch gives great advantage against WSGers as well if it goes off as it disables them to teleport as long as there is groundfire which gives you 2-3 seconds of time to do whatever you want.
thats my view, yours is the other. and im tired to discuss any further since everything that has to be said has been said and we cannot find a consensus apparently.

i just think it is very well possible that you on your part are not experienced enough with kicking and fireblasting to fully be able to comprehend my tactics, and maybe our dueling environment is too different (in whatever way).


hmm? i have a 50/25 chance to get OW, that's pretty solid imo O_O umum witch-hunters.

but yeh, dueling in hell I'm sure changes your opinion, since for ME i don't really need the extra sockets in my trap-claw for anything but OW. and slow, of course, also changes things.

Of course, I'm always trying to improve on my dueling, so eventually I may change my mind, but for now I'm sticking with ww.
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Aug 2 2008 02:24pm
alright i didnt think about using a non-fools trap claw umum.

/anyways, since i know that you are having a hard time with necros i would advice you to try FB and kicks especially in this matchup since i personally find WW very useless in this one. on hybrid i always found this a very tough matchup as well but on trapper i claim i can beat almost every necro, maybe with the exception of those who really never ever appear on your screen, and even there i am not 100% sure to lose because it is fairly easy to dodge the projectiles if they are being spammed that way.

This post was edited by Holocauster_Tycoon on Aug 2 2008 02:27pm
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Aug 2 2008 02:32pm
Quote (Holocauster_Tycoon @ Sat, Aug 2 2008, 12:24pm)
alright i didnt think about using a non-fools trap claw umum.

/anyways, since i know that you are having a hard time with necros i would advice you to try FB and kicks especially in this matchup since i personally find WW very useless in this one. on hybrid i always found this a very tough matchup as well but on trapper i claim i can beat almost every necro, maybe with the exception of those who really never ever appear on your screen, and even there i am not 100% sure to lose because it is fairly easy to dodge the projectiles if they are being spammed that way.


lol, well it says

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Claw 2: trap claw GT (2/3/2 preferrable) socketed um


right in the guide ^^

just as i suspected, no one ever actually reads my guide ^^
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Quote (Yankzfan @ Sat, Aug 2 2008, 01:38pm)
I hope you don't mind a correction to your statement...
It has been pointed out that Cookie-Cutter thinkers say chaos as a default weapon is bad on a trapper, however Darc doesn't hide his ingenuity, he tests what he likes best for himself, doesn't take some guy who made a trapper 3 years ago's opinion.  No.  Thats all you are doing, taking a build you have never tried and saying yours is better because more ppl use it lmao.

i hope you dont mind a correction to your statement... it has been pointed out that you're a shapeshitting retard so your opinion means nothing to anyone good at this game. eat a dick.


Quote (darcanegel @ Sat, Aug 2 2008, 07:08pm)
i think you heavily underestimate whirl-away versus a lot of people.


i think you heavily overestimate your own iq. lol
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Aug 2 2008 08:33pm
Quote (darcanegel @ Sat, Aug 2 2008, 08:32pm)
just as i suspected, no one ever actually reads my guide ^^


we just watch the vid meng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPuaFSn0ow


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Aug 2 2008 08:45pm
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Sat, Aug 2 2008, 06:33pm)
i think you heavily overestimate your own iq. lol


this is coming from a guy who thought it was a good idea to use mass poison charms on a bvc.

I don't mind taing criticism from someone who actually appears to know what they're doing, but you're just a fucking idiot who thinks he's a big man. go play with your tinker toys dipshit.
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this is coming from a guy who thought it was a good idea to use mass poison charms on a bvc.

I don't mind taing criticism from someone who actually appears to know what they're doing, but you're just a fucking idiot who thinks he's a big man.  go play with your tinker toys dipshit.


link? thought so, cry more kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPuaFSn0ow

ez shit lol
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Aug 3 2008 03:57am
Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Sun, Aug 3 2008, 04:33am)
i think you heavily overestimate your own iq. lol


lmao
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Quote (AbysmalDescent @ Sun, Aug 3 2008, 01:55am)
link? thought so, cry more kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPuaFSn0ow

ez shit lol


keep posting that as if it's an actual argument. you even have to outsource your cleverness. pathetic.
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