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Oct 13 2008 02:52pm
Quote (xD|mike- @ Tue, Oct 7 2008, 07:30pm)
actually you ride on every single crappy guide posted in here, you're useless.


mine would be the best of the crappy guides, however. Probably because I've killed the best on east

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Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Mon, Oct 13 2008, 03:52pm)
mine would be the best of the crappy guides, however. Probably because I've killed the best on east

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Oct 14 2008 04:38pm
Interesting build, I'll give you that. But your dueling strategies would lead me to believe you have little skill as a dueler. Not every character that telestomps you over and over is hacking. You however, do seem to be a bit of a pub and therefor would not understand that.
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just for personal not i prefer 3/20/20's or what ever variaton of max dmg charms u can get over psn for the simple fact that psn isnt affected by crit strike and it cant be stack resisted . other then that gg
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Quote (TokeSomeSmoke @ Tue, Oct 14 2008, 08:24pm)
just for personal not i prefer 3/20/20's or what ever variaton of max dmg charms u can get over psn for the simple fact that psn isnt affected by crit strike and it cant be stack resisted . other then that gg


32020s would be used on a normal zon, but this is a psn zon, and if u read the guide, u'd clearly understand the reasonings behind all his gear. Psn isnt effected by crit, but the 1-2k physical dmg u still have is, which still packs a punch on top of the massive poison and possibly OW.

Quote (Maximillian-VII @ Tue, Oct 14 2008, 05:38pm)
Interesting build, I'll give you that. But your dueling strategies would lead me to believe you have little skill as a dueler. Not every character that telestomps you over and over is hacking. You however, do seem to be a bit of a pub and therefor would not understand that.


He cant tell u how to duel, he can give u tips of how to use the zon, but its up to whoever makes this to find out their own styles of dueling.

Quote (xD|mike- @ Tue, Oct 7 2008, 07:30pm)
actually you ride on every single crappy guide posted in here, you're useless.


Every single crappy guide? The only ones ive defended are Spartikis' and this one, because ive either experienced using them and owned pubs/priv games/4v4's, 3v3s 2v2s 1v1s or seen these builds do that. These 2 guides are vastly superior to any zon guide. The only use a glass zon has is in zvz because of all the restrictions in the old amapk rules.

Quote (RyanisGreat @ Tue, Oct 7 2008, 04:33pm)
actually a capable barb should at least go 50/50 with a hammerdin


i take back what i said about smiters, they are pretty easy once u learn how to duel. Barbs are incredibly easy as well, and yes they can own hammerdins. Only problems i have are the godliest ghosts, godly mb ele druids, and massive bming necs.
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Oct 14 2008 09:20pm
Tele Smite (Comboed with charge when appropriate) + Holy Freeze Flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Zons build Matt

I love how you deny it but any telesmiter with half a brain would destroy you. I've read your posts throughout this entire thread and come to the conclusion you duel nothing but pubs. Please duel some non-brain dead enemies then feel free to come back and give a legit perspective on dueling matchups.
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Oct 14 2008 09:28pm
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Tele Smite (Comboed with charge when appropriate) + Holy Freeze Flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your Zons build Matt

I love how you deny it but any telesmiter with half a brain would destroy you. I've read your posts throughout this entire thread and come to the conclusion you duel nothing but pubs. Please duel some non-brain dead enemies then feel free to come back and give a legit perspective on dueling matchups.


So some of the best on east arent good enough? I love how u like every noob out there overestimates the powers of a tele smiter. Im not a glass zon thats gonna die 1-2 hits from ur smite, ill tank plenty. Im not gonna 5-0 a good tele smiter, but im certainly not gonna get 0-5'd like u think noob. Get any tele smiter, ANY on east and i mean ANY, and its either gonna be me winning or me losing by a hair. If he bms, then that just proves im > him. And bm doesnt always work. Ive owned some of the best barbs on east who used doomz or smiters who use hf, so please know what ur talking about b4 u post this meaningless shit.
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Quote (Mattd90 @ Tue, Oct 14 2008, 11:58pm)
So some of the best on east arent good enough? I love how u like every noob out there overestimates the powers of a tele smiter. Im not a glass zon thats gonna die 1-2 hits from ur smite, ill tank plenty. Im not gonna 5-0 a good tele smiter, but im certainly not gonna get 0-5'd like u think noob. Get any tele smiter, ANY on east and i mean ANY, and its either gonna be me winning or me losing by a hair. If he bms, then that just proves im > him. And bm doesnt always work. Ive owned some of the best barbs on east who used doomz or smiters who use hf, so please know what ur talking about b4 u post this meaningless shit.


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Quote (marvel. @ Tue, Oct 14 2008, 10:40pm)
pm me for 1v1


we can duel tomorow, im going to bed in 2 min.

remind me if i dont.
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Quote (Mattd90 @ Wed, Oct 15 2008, 03:28am)
So some of the best on east arent good enough? I love how u like every noob out there overestimates the powers of a tele smiter. Im not a glass zon thats gonna die 1-2 hits from ur smite, ill tank plenty. Im not gonna 5-0 a good tele smiter, but im certainly not gonna get 0-5'd like u think noob. Get any tele smiter, ANY on east and i mean ANY, and its either gonna be me winning or me losing by a hair. If he bms, then that just proves im > him. And bm doesnt always work. Ive owned some of the best barbs on east who used doomz or smiters who use hf, so please know what ur talking about b4 u post this meaningless shit.


HF Flash is not BM and doom is only considered BM (maybe) on certain characters. I wish I still had my smiter because I know I would personally 5-0 you.

And for the record, why are you even posting here? You don't even play this build, do you? I especially love how you've yet to offer one solid and meaningful strategy to fighting any single matchup in the entire game. Hiding behind one of the oldest and most tell-tale sign of a noob, "I can't tell you how to play your character."

Anyway I won't waste any more of my time. I didn't mean to get your panties all in a bunch, I just wanted to point out that bowazons aren't the end-all of pvp. Far from.

Good luck

edgie

Edit: And your comment about beating BMing barbs ("the best barbs on east") serves only to prove my earlier statements. Clegs + Arach + Doom on switch and Bone Prison charges from Marrows and I don't even need to run to catch you. Duel some decent players please.

This post was edited by edgie on Oct 15 2008 12:10am
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